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I suppose if you count casual games (not what people normally consider the old venues of PC gaming) You DO have a much better picture, and in that case it isn't dying per se.  However, it's not the PC gaming that everyone talks about here and it's not the types of games typically played on consoles.  But if you like FB games and the such...it IS a good time to be a PC gamer.

 

I do not like 'casual' games or FB games and you think that means it's a bad time for me to be a PC gamer. So tell me what is it am I missing out on?

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First quarter 2012, EA sales:

 

Xbox 360: $292 million

PS3: $267 million

PC: $276 million

 

There have been other results from other companies in various genres, all showing the same thing: PCs, given the chance, can generally sell about the same as a console. It is not the dominant force it once was, true, but it is. Not. DEAD.

 

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A console sits with a TV, and is obvious to see. Many games emphasize co-op, so it's not uncommon for people to discuss it with others because they can sit next to each other and play. Consoles have widened their markets to target people outside of the old definition of core gaming markets. Consoles are often perceived as immature but mainstream entertainment, so there is little stigma.

 

A gaming computer can be mistaken for a regular computer and is generally not obvious to see. With LAN games being replaced by internet multiplayer, it's less likely to be discussed openly. PCs have maintained a similar market, so they have not grown as much as consoles did. PC games are often perceived as nerdy and pretentious with a hint of living-in-basement, so there is some stigma to mentioning it.

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From what I can tell, "consoles" are becoming more and more like computers all the time. They can surf the web, they can download, they can social network, they can play movies. At some point, they're probably likely to involve Steam-like distribution methods for many things. In a way, they're morphing into PC-lites themselves. They are no longer some entirely separate thing like NES vs. pc-Doom.

 

At some point I think the media entertainment "stuff" is all going to converge and there will be some kind of uber, all-in-one media/entertainment system that is separate from the "work" desktop/PC function but is not really a "console" anymore, either. it'll likely start to have more and more control options (vs. the "game controller") that will make more complex gaming interfaces possible to design for (which would appease to a degree some PC users), and so on.

 

Whether I'll personally like such a thing is still up for debate.

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I'll say it again, PC gaming compared to what it was, is dead.

Where's your evidence? Where's the sales numbers? Where's the revenue? Where's the profits? We don't know what they are when concerning well over half the PC gaming sales platforms Steam and Origin, revenue from F2P games like League of Legends and Team Fortress 2. You don't know.

Remember, SE had 3.5 billion in sales...the 1.5 was specifying in certain areas.

Negative, that was the revenues posted for the financial year March 2010 - March 2011.

I suppose if you count casual games (not what people normally consider the old venues of PC gaming) You DO have a much better picture, and in that case it isn't dying per se. However, it's not the PC gaming that everyone talks about here and it's not the types of games typically played on consoles. But if you like FB games and the such...it IS a good time to be a PC gamer.

Where do you draw the line? Do we take away Wii games? Move games? Kinect games? They make a lot of money for the consoles, that's why they're pushing them so hard. Do we take away racing and sports? They're not really part of "core" gaming. Actually a lot of the big console franchises are about attracting the casual gamer, the modern military shooter including Call of Duty and Battlefield single player, almost on rails meant for the "cinematic" experience with gaming down to a minimum, the Uncharted series, Heavy Rain, all the bull****.
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I'll say it again, PC gaming compared to what it was, is dead.

Where's your evidence? Where's the sales numbers? Where's the revenue? Where's the profits? We don't know what they are when concerning well over half the PC gaming sales platforms Steam and Origin, revenue from F2P games like League of Legends and Team Fortress 2. You don't know.

>Remember, SE had 3.5 billion in sales...the 1.5 was specifying in certain areas.

Negative, that was the revenues posted for the financial year March 2010 - March 2011.

I suppose if you count casual games (not what people normally consider the old venues of PC gaming) You DO have a much better picture, and in that case it isn't dying per se. However, it's not the PC gaming that everyone talks about here and it's not the types of games typically played on consoles. But if you like FB games and the such...it IS a good time to be a PC gamer.

Where do you draw the line? Do we take away Wii games? Move games? Kinect games? They make a lot of money for the consoles, that's why they're pushing them so hard. Do we take away racing and sports? They're not really part of "core" gaming. Actually a lot of the big console franchises are about attracting the casual gamer, the modern military shooter including Call of Duty and Battlefield single player, almost on rails meant for the "cinematic" experience with gaming down to a minimum, the Uncharted series, Heavy Rain, all the bull****.

 

 

I gotta say Ocelot I don't think anyone could refute your logic in this post :bow:

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