Dark Ages in modern London

[Walsingham]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/cri...ed-for-boy.html

[Malcador]

Damn Chaos.

[Nightshape]

<sarcastic mocking upper class british tone of voice>

"Well, they will let the savages from Africa into our country"

</sarcastic mocking upper class british tone of voice>

 

Also... This is infact mental.

[bigcrazewolf]

Every single savage involved in this horrible act of violence on an innocent child, should have to suffer the same fate.....and they could call me to do the job . They don't have the death penalty over there, do they?

[Walsingham]

<sarcastic mocking upper class british tone of voice>

"Well, they will let the savages from Africa into our country"

</sarcastic mocking upper class british tone of voice>

 

Also... This is infact mental.

 

Oi! That's, like, racism but for rich people.

[Nightshape]

<sarcastic mocking upper class british tone of voice>

"Well, they will let the savages from Africa into our country"

</sarcastic mocking upper class british tone of voice>

 

Also... This is infact mental.

 

Oi! That's, like, racism but for rich people.

 

I was thinking of your average pompus daily mail reader and could help but share the response.

 

Sad thing is I can imagine someone sat eating their eggs on toast round the brekkie table, and reading this, and saying such a thing... I need to get out of Guildford... Badly.

[Orogun01]

Ritualistic killings, likely cause since it's the season for sacrifice.

[Walsingham]

<sarcastic mocking upper class british tone of voice>

"Well, they will let the savages from Africa into our country"

</sarcastic mocking upper class british tone of voice>

 

Also... This is infact mental.

 

Oi! That's, like, racism but for rich people.

 

I was thinking of your average pompus daily mail reader and could help but share the response.

 

Sad thing is I can imagine someone sat eating their eggs on toast round the brekkie table, and reading this, and saying such a thing... I need to get out of Guildford... Badly.

 

I know the kind of thing you mean. I've heard some shocking things come out of mouths you'd think only ate cake.

[Darth InSidious]

^Cakehole didn't become an obnoxious term for nothing...

[Walsingham]

^Cakehole didn't become an obnoxious term for nothing...

 

LOL.

 

Most people most places are practically identical. So i don't have a problem with immigration as a whole. But I think we handle it very poorly.

 

If you hoover up a thousand people who've lived a life of unremitting tribal warfare in total anarchy, and who believe in the benefits of witch doctors and sacrifice, and deposit them in Surbiton they won't instantly adapt to our lifestyle and values just because they've seen a Gregg's the bakers. Much more needs to be done to help immigrants adjust.

[Darth InSidious]

It's not just that. We do nothing to help people coming into this country to integrate. How exactly this is a good thing, when people are often, as you say, coming from massively different cultures, I don't know.

[Walsingham]

Mind you, I also think we need to do a lot more to help certain people born in the UK adjust to our lifestyle and values. It seems hypocritical to view it as only an issue for newcomers.

 

What we need is some sort of unifying philosophy, and an organisation to enforce it. I'm thinking perhaps wearing distinctive clothing as a visible sign of commitment to those ideals. It would need to be something visual, but not intrusive A shirt, maybe. In brown.

[Nightshape]

I vote civil war... That'll get people banding togeather. I just don't know what it should be over yet... I know, Cheese & Onion or Salt & Vinegar crisps - GOOD A REASON AS ANY.

[213374U]

If you hoover up a thousand people who've lived a life of unremitting tribal warfare in total anarchy, and who believe in the benefits of witch doctors and sacrifice, and deposit them in Surbiton they won't instantly adapt to our lifestyle and values just because they've seen a Gregg's the bakers. Much more needs to be done to help immigrants adjust.

I've thought about this before. Population is a strategic resource, and well exploited resources equal wealth and prosperity. Of course, "exploitation" when applied to people has some rather dark overtones, but essentially economies are built by people to exploit people, and we seem to have no problem with that. Additional workers should be a welcome addition to any growing economy -and if an economy isn't growing, it has bigger problems than immigration anyway-, they bolster economic activity even if part of what they earn is sent away, they increase tax revenues for the state and perhaps most importantly, they can help reverse the worrisome tendency towards a geriatric society. The (early) US is the obvious example of immigrants adapting and working together for great results - but the US is also unique in that it's a country immigrants could feel they actually had helped build.

 

But it may be that turning all -or even most- immigrants into well integrated and productive members of society is the social equivalent of turning lead into gold. Endless potential, yes, but ultimately impossible? I have serious doubts, especially considering how deeply ingrained is the dogma that there are no irreconcilable differences with regards to culture and customs, and the unshakable belief that multiculturalism is the way to go, even in the face of historical evidence pointing at precisely those issues as the chief reasons for internal tensions and conflict.

 

Sadly, it is one of the many issues in which serious debate is prevented by the all-encompassing aegis of political correctness.

Edited March 30, 2011 by 213374U

[Walsingham]

I find it somewhat ironic that - however cynically - the original 'aim of a certain system was very different cultures living side by side without the one diminishing the other. The word for that system was apartheid.

 

And then what is the alternative? To reduce us all to a uniform grey paste of commercial behaviour and trivial cosmetic pursuits? The lowest common denominators of humanity?

[Nightshape]

And then what is the alternative? To reduce us all to a uniform grey paste of commercial behaviour and trivial cosmetic pursuits? The lowest common denominators of humanity?

 

YAY! In which you can say GOODBYE DIVERSITY! HELLO MONOCULTURE.

 

I fear the monoculture, which is actually the eventual result of multiculturalism.

 

Oh what a mess.

[Monte Carlo]

^Cakehole didn't become an obnoxious term for nothing...

 

If you hoover up a thousand people who've lived a life of unremitting tribal warfare in total anarchy, and who believe in the benefits of witch doctors and sacrifice, and deposit them in Surbiton they won't instantly adapt to our lifestyle and values just because they've seen a Gregg's the bakers.

 

Surbiton is quite posh, I don't think there is a Gregg's but there is a nice deli and a decent French restaurant.

[Meshugger]

But it may be that turning all -or even most- immigrants into well integrated and productive members of society is the social equivalent of turning lead into gold. Endless potential, yes, but ultimately impossible? I have serious doubts, especially considering how deeply ingrained is the dogma that there are no irreconcilable differences with regards to culture and customs, and the unshakable belief that multiculturalism is the way to go, even in the face of historical evidence pointing at precisely those issues as the chief reasons for internal tensions and conflict.

 

Sadly, it is one of the many issues in which serious debate is prevented by the all-encompassing aegis of political correctness.

 

Agreed. I have nothing further to add really. Nicely summed up there, mate.