Korea

[Gorgon]

Young patriots with a lot of get up and go, the same melding of personal, economic and national goals that had overthrown the old order in the Meiji restoration - the same kind of people who colonized India for the British Empire. Progress and national imperatives, at any cost. These kinds of people don't stop to think of the consequences of starting wars they can't win.

 

Early military success leads to an unrealistic appraisal of your own capability, much like Hitler when he decided that invading Russia would be a good idea.

[Malcador]

So apparently, big weekend in Korea. ROK's doing drills on the island that was shelled, NK thretening war and notifying the world that this war will go nuclear and not only against ROK.

[Thorton_AP]

NK is threatening to nuke other people unrelated to ROK's actions?

[Calax]

If it does at least the economy will recover...

[Humodour]

NK backed down and said they would not start a war over this after all.

[Monte Carlo]

Early military success leads to an unrealistic appraisal of your own capability, much like Hitler when he decided that invading Russia would be a good idea.

 

Hmmm a really big subject, an interesting propostion and whoah the thread is de-railed!

 

Your point only answers fifty percent of why Hitler ordered Op. Barbarossa (mainly because it was conceived before the start of the war). Sure, it played a part in the rationale, but early Nazi military successes in the West should also be compared to the utterly parlous, near-medieval state of the Soviet military in 1941. I can't put my hand on my heart and say it was a gamble I wouldn't have taken (modern example - a brace of armoured divisions, utterly outnumbered on paper, invade and conquer a large country with a massive army through a combination of technlogical superiority, a professional army and air superiority - yes I'm talking about Iraq in 2003).

 

The ideological zeal / Lebensraum aspect of Hitler's decision-making is more of a useful factor in why the Nazis invaded the USSR. He was genuinely convinced that the untermensch would roll over. This was the flame which military success in the low countries tipped a bucket-full of petrol over.

 

Cheers

MC

Edited December 21, 2010 by Monte Carlo

[Malcador]

NK backed down and said they would not start a war over this after all.

 

Well that was predictable, I guess ROK/US called their bluff. Either that or there's some back room deal that gave Kim what he wanted (Japanese showgirls?).

[Nepenthe]

NK backed down and said they would not start a war over this after all.

 

Well that was predictable, I guess ROK/US called their bluff. Either that or there's some back room deal that gave Kim what he wanted (Japanese showgirls?).

Or a phone call from Beijing.

[Walsingham]

NK backed down and said they would not start a war over this after all.

 

Well that was predictable, I guess ROK/US called their bluff. Either that or there's some back room deal that gave Kim what he wanted (Japanese showgirls?).

Or a phone call from Beijing.

 

Ew.

 

Wait, sorry, just following the train of logic from the showgirls.

 

Novel thought for a sex phone line though: senior Chinese state officials.

[Rostere]

NK backed down and said they would not start a war over this after all.

 

Well that was predictable, I guess ROK/US called their bluff. Either that or there's some back room deal that gave Kim what he wanted (Japanese showgirls?).

Or a phone call from Beijing.

 

Ew.

 

Wait, sorry, just following the train of logic from the showgirls.

 

Novel thought for a sex phone line though: senior Chinese state officials.

 

LOL

[Malcador]

Ew.

 

Wait, sorry, just following the train of logic from the showgirls.

 

Novel thought for a sex phone line though: senior Chinese state officials.

 

 

Power is sexy.