FO: NV (General Discussion)

[TheHarlequin]

I also didn't have a slide for the BoS in the end.

 

Strangely enough, though, I did receive a slide for a group called "the Misfits" that I had never even encountered or heard of.

 

Seems to me the BoS got the shaft in the end. Which is odd.. why put all the effort into that faction in the game if you are going to totally ignore them in the end? Little gangs most people over look get a slide at the end but nothing for the BoS? That makes Harl cry... :~(

[Thorton_AP]

I got a BoS update.

[Cantousent]

I'm hoping to get one this time. After so many hours of playing, I finally managed to figure out what the deal was with Boone. I should have just gone and looked it up. What a pain. I'm thinking that BoS might fare better this run. Last time,

I was pretty much forced to destroy them. I've done NCR and House, now I'm going to go the Yes Man route and see if I can fashion the New Vegas I want to see.

 

 

I've gotten BoS updates, but never one that seemed like what I would consider a good ending. Of course, I also think the entire Vegas chapter of the BoS is incompetent.

Edited November 27, 2010 by Cantousent

[WorstUsernameEver]

You can

ally with the BoS in the NCR route. Colonel Moore doesn't like your choice though. And apparently, judging by a post by Pop, the option to ally the BoS with Mr. House almost went in the game before it was cut. Not sure if for time or plot reasons though.

[LadyCrimson]

So I dumped a whole bunch of food items in a huge pile on the floor of the 38. Craig and Arcade kept walking by every few minutes to scoop something off of the pile. The rate and amount of food your companions can eat while at the 38 is astronomical. I laughed for as long as the food lasted....which wasn't very long.

[Calax]

So... I just got the game (yay for 30bucks at gamestops online store) and gotta ask... Anyone know how I can make my own face for the pc? Here's what the Obsidian guys did:

 

[Cantousent]

I finished the game as my own master this time. Interesting in that this is the first time I've gotten all of the companions. I think that was all of the companions.

 

My favorite line is still Cass' from the previous run where she says something like, "We were going full speed ahead, but we were facing backward the whole time." Talk about the story of my life.

 

Great job on this. I've spent 200 hundred hours on this game since I purchased it. Even if you assume I had to pause and step away for even a third of the time (which would be quite a liberal calculation) then I've spent 134 hours actually playing. I have barely done anything else in my free time even up to and including something I hardly ever do, which is to take meals at my computer.

 

Truly an awesome game. Even now, I'm planning on more things I'll do. I plan on finishing the story siding with the Legion at least once and I've never put paid to those bastards who stole the dynamite. Cooke I guess he is. Even after a couple hundred hours, there're still quests I haven't done.

 

Good luck on getting your face exactly right in the game, Calax.

[HoonDing]

So... I just got the game (yay for 30bucks at gamestops online store) and gotta ask... Anyone know how I can make my own face for the pc? Here's what the Obsidian guys did:

 

There's a console command:

 

player.placeleveledactoratme 001349b6

[LadyCrimson]

All these hours spent...quite a few cateyes used...a lot of "damn this game is pitch black" comments as I ran through some room...and then recently I learned that a pipboy flashlight existed. Argh.

I kept seeing those in-game messages about the pipboy light 'giving you away' and I was always thinking "what light?" I'd go into pipboy and see nothing, no button to press etc.

 

My steam copy did not come with any manual at all. *slapface*

[Gorgon]

Yes it did, an online one. My link was dead though.

 

Besides, it's in PDF. Why people use this format I do not understand. It's not seachable, loads mind numbingly slow. Exactly what you don't want in a game manual.

Edited November 29, 2010 by Gorgon

[Tale]

PDF is searchable. If it's not scanned into the format.

[LadyCrimson]

What link? I see no link. When I bought the game I saw 'buy game' and 'buy official guide'. I skipped the later. There's no manual-like readme in the game folder and the start menu has nothing.

....I suppose this is a figure out where-in-the-steam-menus the link is thing. eg, not intuitive to old farts like me. Should have a readme that mentions the link. lol

[Gorgon]

Open steam and go to the game's page under 'Library' > 'Games'

[Gorgon]

Works now, must have been too busy when the game was just out

 

http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/22380/...df?t=1289584476

Edited November 29, 2010 by Gorgon

[Gorgon]

It's throwing error messages at me. Could be my browser I suppose.

[Gorgon]

PDF is searchable. If it's not scanned into the format.

You don't think a simple php or html format would have worked a bajillion times better ?

[Tale]

PDF is searchable. If it's not scanned into the format.

You don't think a simple php or html format would have worked a bajillion times better ?

You do know that PHP is scripting, right? And HTML is pretty much only good for viewing webpages, not actual documents. I won't even guess what it would take to convert the source material into HTML. And then set up appropriate links for all of the images instead of just putting it all into one file.

 

No, they wouldn't work better.

Edited November 29, 2010 by Tale

[Gorgon]

It's like a programming language, with templates ready made, like the one we are using right now. Wikipedia is php. What more could you want from a manual ?

Edited November 29, 2010 by Gorgon

[Tale]

That would make sense if the manual was made for HTML. But the manuals are made for printing. The PDF manuals are copies of the source file they printed and tossed in the packaging.

 

It's right inane to create a new manual off a new template just to shoehorn it into HTML.

 

I made my share of crappy geocities sites back in the day. And I used notepad, dag nabbit. Unlike you lazy kids these days.

Edited November 29, 2010 by Tale

[Gorgon]

The PC version only came out on STEAM, the manual was never shipped anywhere. Not that I care that much, if I can't find it in the options I rarely ever bother checking the manual.

 

Good games shouldn't need one.

Edited November 29, 2010 by Gorgon

[Tale]

The PC manual is the same as the console manuals, with some keys swapped around.

[Cantousent]

I think it's quite the legitimate complaint to say that the damned guide doesn't load worth a crap. It is searchable, but that's only if it loads up in the first place. Like Lady Crimson was saying, I only figured out how to holster my weapons by searching the internet. Even then, it was hardly ever even a minor issue except for one particular point that jumps out at me. So, I have to figure out how to holster my weapon and I have to pray the guide actually loads. When it does, I don't recall it being very clear. I also recall that I had the same problem in Fallout 3. One or two instances where holstering my weapon was necessary, only in Fallout 3 I think it was required to get into one of the cities or something.

 

Now, if a significant number of sales come from downloaded purchases, it's not too much to ask that the publisher find a better way to accomodate folks. ...And, yeah, the majority of folks have hard copies, but a significant minority does not. Frankly, I would think Steam and the publisher would want to make it easier to look up this sort of info.

 

After all, when we say that we had fun discovering new things after hours and hours of play, we don't mean we discovered how to sling our damned rifle over our shoulder.

[Gorgon]

How 'do' you sling weapons anyway. I thought they disabled it because lots of weapons clipped with the characters.

[Tale]

Hold R.

[Cantousent]

Actually, that's a good point. For folks who are curious, you hold TAB to turn your pip boy light on or off. I never really had issues with that. Like Tale says, you press R to reload and hold it down to holster your weapon. I'm trying to think, but I only recall one quest where I had to holster my weapon. On the other hand, if you're carrying a rifle or heavy weapon, you run a lot faster if you holster, which is useful for long hikes.