Raithe Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 I recently came across this blog by an author I enjoy (L.E.Modesitt, Jr) and it made me ponder on this... I was curious what other forumites might consider on the art of political compromise in the 21st century.. Political, organizational, and corporate leaders are either outsiders or insiders. Insiders who rise to leadership positions almost always do so by mastering the existing structures and ways of doing things. In short, the best of them do what has always been done, hopefully better, while the worst cling to the most comfortable ways of the past, often rigidly enforcing certain rules and procedures, whether or not they "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Orogun01 Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 **** the press. this I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Rostere Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 **** the press. this this "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!"
Raithe Posted October 3, 2010 Author Posted October 3, 2010 It's always nice to see such careful thought put into responses.. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Rostere Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 It's always nice to see such careful thought put into responses.. tl;dr "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!"
Walsingham Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 I think the piece identifies an important issue, but it's not impossible to generate change. It's just bloody difficult. I have a pressing engagement at some flaming barricade with a pint of beer or I'd wax at length, but in brief: 1. Organisations have become huge, and our open societies and corporate dissimulation have elad to a nuclear detonation of what can be called 'stakeholders'. People who are, or who feel affected by the proposal of change. 2. It is an axiom of mine that improvement will always have enemies, and that you have to be prepared to tell some people to get stuffed. But at teh same time, a lot of people simply fear confusion and uncertainty rather than change. 3. In addition it ispossible to have people whose logical standpoint would agree with you, but who don't see why they should. 4. Therefore communication _in its broadest sense_ is crucial to improvement. People must see what is being proposed in terms they understand and appreciate. Compromise follows not as a decision, but as a logical concomitant. Just a thought. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Wrath of Dagon Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 I don't think the media is as much of a problem as cowardly incompetent leadership and an ignorant electorate. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Slowtrain Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 I don't think the media is as much of a problem as cowardly incompetent leadership and an ignorant electorate. I'd argue that the media controls the opinions of the electorate and thus indirectly the leadership who must court the electorate in order to remain in power. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Wrath of Dagon Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Media doesn't control anything. All information is only a google away. If someone deliberately chooses to remain ignorant, the fault lies only with them. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Gfted1 Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Wait, if the media controls the electorate, wouldnt the leadership have to court the media to remain in power? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Orogun01 Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Wait, if the media controls the electorate, wouldnt the leadership have to court the media to remain in power? They do it to get to power, afterwards is a lot like managing a relationship. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Nepenthe Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Wait, if the media controls the electorate, wouldnt the leadership have to court the media to remain in power? Yes. Haven't noticed it yet? They must be doing it better over there... You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Walsingham Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 Media doesn't control anything. All information is only a google away. If someone deliberately chooses to remain ignorant, the fault lies only with them. I presume this is intentionally funny? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
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