what happened to the Lair?

[Guest Mistress]

Every time I go to mistress lair I'm struck with a feeling of extreme nausia and have to click out of there ASAP. If I wanted to read about soppy, boring and whiny girls' weddings I'd go to.... no, wait, I can't see myself ever wanting to read about soppy, boring and whiny girls weddings.

Stop going there then.

[Mr. Teatime]

I go there about once every 6 months for 5 minutes, usually after reading about it somewhere and thinking 'oh it can't be that bad'. I have a problem with the type of internet female who has her following of worker males, the problem being it makes me feel sick. Whenever I go to mistress lair I see that it is where all those horrid things gather, and can't imagine why anyone would want to spend any amount of time there without becoming one of the many adoring drones that these girls seek to boost their faltering egos.

[Guest Mistress]

I go there about once every 6 months for 5 minutes, usually after reading about it somewhere and thinking 'oh it can't be that bad'. I have a problem with the typical internet female who has her following of worker males, the problem being it makes me feel sick. Whenever I go to mistress lair I see that it is where all those horrid things gather.

Right sure, that's exactly what I have. I have a forum, people post there. That must mean I have some sort of fawning cult following.

 

You don't like it - that's fair enough - but be careful when assigning me any labels when quite frankly you have no idea about me.

[Mr. Teatime]

I never said I know much about your personality, apart from the bits I've picked up from reading the occasional post by you and seeing the site you choose to run. I am merely giving the impression I am left with every time after visiting your 'lair', and the reasons why I am always put off it.

 

Bah, I'm off to listen to some Queen.

[Cantousent]

You know, if you don't go to the chatter zone or the (so-called) serious stuff, Missy's isn't really like that. Go to the gaming fora and you'll find the conversation is mostly about... games. That's right, games. If you have a board with a number of fora on it, you'd think that most of the fora match the description.

 

There's an abundance of off topic areas. There are the alleged serious political and scientific fora where folks pretend that they're discussing things in a mature and intelligent manner. (well, I don't know how many folks even try to carry on the pretense of mature there) There's a tech forum, where folks talk about tech. There is a role playing forum. There are different types of gaming fora. It just sounds like you need to scroll down the page a tad.

[~Di]

Hmm, the Lair isn't up and running on my computer. I get nothing but a critical error, something to do with sub-silver.

[Guest Mistress]

Hmm, the Lair isn't up and running on my computer. I get nothing but a critical error, something to do with sub-silver.

Tried refreshing once you get the URL up? It should be working just fine. Quite a few people are in ok. I will change the theme in your profile and see if that helps.

[~Di]

That did it, thank you, Missy! The Lair now comes up for me!

[Guest Mistress]

Totally sweet. It is probably because I was playing around with the themes and the folder permissions earlier.

[StillLife]

Every time I go to mistress lair I'm struck with a feeling of extreme nausia and have to click out of there ASAP. If I wanted to read about soppy, boring and whiny girls' weddings I'd go to.... no, wait, I can't see myself ever wanting to read about soppy, boring and whiny girls weddings.

Damn, what forums are you guys going to in there!? Try sticking to the General Gaming Discussion and the RPG discussion Teatime, or even the music forum. That's probably the main reason you'd go there anyway right? I've never even seen anything there like what you're talking about.

 

And who the hell is following females in a cult? Are you just disturbed that the board is owned/operated by a girl or what? It's not like the backround of the forums are pink or something man.

 

As for Kharn: one of the reasons I like that place is because the majority of posters seem to be over 18, and the discussions usually tend to maintain a mature and friendly level most of the time, with flaming kept to a minimum. Even Visc/Hades seems to get along ok there. So again, I don't know what you're talking about either. Of course if your idea of an engaging discussion involves rallying the local board mob to break out the flame throwers and go to work on someone, I could see how it might not be your cup of tea. That's what NMA is for after all. B)

[Brother None]

No need to be so sensitive about it.

 

It's hard to judge a forum when you're on the inside of it, I've always liked the quiet self-reflection and critical eye of welsh, who seems to be able to judge NMA for its flaws no matter how much he likes it on there. Not all people have this ability, nor should they.

 

TeaTime is, I think, referring to the fact that a lot of people go to Missy's lair *because* it's run by a chick, whose cyberpanties is a prized item of contest. Like it or not, that's the effect of having a site with a large female presence.

 

And StillLife, I do not think you grasp the concept of "emotional maturity" in this context. Missy's lair, nice at might be, is severaly emotionally immature. Not in the sense that posters don't behave and "don't use naughty language", because that has nothing to do with maturity. One of the most mature message forums on the 'net I know of is the infamous AssHats, but they often act like a bunch of clowns or teenagers, and flame each other to hell. Their emotional maturity lies in the sense that they're older and wiser in the ways of life, and are not to be dragged of quickly by petty notions like younger people do. Their opinions on any subject tend strongly to be well-thought out and informed.

 

The first sign of lack of emotional maturity is guys fawning over girls. Every site has this, I mean, this is the internet, go figure, but the level on which your site has this very much determins the emotional mature face of your site.

 

Now underneath it all Missy's Lair might be a grand place of maturity and intellectualism, but on the surface? Tchyeah.

 

But that might just be me.

 

Oh, plus your taste in movies really sucks, I actually caught a post there about Lost in Translation being about rich angst. But at least that statement was supported a bit, the rest of the thread is just pretty inane remarks. <_< (which not is not to say all of the forums I visit are different, but I do tend to skip over those threads)

[Mr. Teatime]

Well put Khan. Did you like Lost In Translation? I like Bill Murray but didn't watch the whole film because I was really annoyed by the 19 yr old girl actor in it. I also wasn't sure whether they were saying 'hey these two should get together, even though he's the age of her grandfather' or not.

[Brother None]

Well put Khan. Did you like Lost In Translation? I like Bill Murray but didn't watch the whole film because I was really annoyed by the 19 yr old girl actor in it. I also wasn't sure whether they were saying 'hey these two should get together, even though he's the age of her grandfather' or not.

I loved Lost in Translation. It was possibly the only meaningful film of 2003, considering the pile of pure entertainment crap walking besides it (Return of the King, Pirates of the Carribean, Master & Commander)

 

I am never annoyed by Scarlett Johansson. Beautiful, beautiful girl, that

 

Anyway, "them getting it on" would be a misinterpretation, just like that "rich angst" stuff on Missie's. The film is not about feeling sorry for yourself, or about love in the non-platonic sense.

 

It's about their place in life. The title of the film is "Lost in Translation" and it is, very conciously, set in a city that enables the characters to mirror this feeling, that feeling of being totally lost.

 

Bill Murray is a man going through his Mid-life crisis, a time of great insecurity, when you're completely unsure if you took the right path in life and even more unsure if you want to continue it, which is why so many mid-lifers take such strange, random and big decisions, most common is buying a Harley or a Porsche (if you can afford one, heh)

 

Scarlett Johansson is a young intellectual who just got her university degree in Philosophy. Much like me right now, she is wondering what she's going to do with her life and feeling completely lost. Some people know what to do with their life when they're going, often because they're told by their parents, but the increased freedom of the modern age means that a lot of young people feel at a loss at what to do, and often they make the wrong choice. But, as Murray say to Johansson, "you'll figure that out"

 

It's a beautiful dance of mingled emotions, thoughts and directions. The entire film is not so much a plot, an adventure or an event, it is a thought. And I'm afraid a lot of Westerners, and Americans in particular (shames me to say it, but it's prolly too), simply don't get that. We've grown too accustomed to films that're actually going somewhere to remember those great masterpieces by Federico Fellini that did nothing but express a feeling, rather than a story. And no, that's not artsie, I still hate artsie

 

The reason I fired off at that particular thread at Missie's is because they completely seem to miss that. And that's fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if you don't get a film, I'd rather you say "I don't get it" than fire down on it. I, personally, don't *get* 2001, but I have to admit it's a masterpiece, because that's what it is. Funniest thing is, the quote in that thread is probably the most sensitive moment from the film, where, once again, the dialogue is not even the most important thing, the feeling behind it is.

[Guest Mistress]

I haven't seen Lost in Translation yet. I've been umming and aahing over whether to watch it or not, partly because Bill Murray has a tendency to get on my nerves.

 

On the topic of films - someone recommended that I watch Cabin Fever a while ago. So, the other night my boyfriend and I rented the DVD and settled down to watch it. *sigh* When did they let Rider Strong out of the Boy Meets World cage? <_< That's another couple of hours of my life I want back.

[Mr. Teatime]

Cabin Fever sucked because of the teenage/young actors in it. I have a problem with all kid actors, namely, I don't think they can act. Like Scarlett Johnson. Cabin Fever was good at the end when it kind of took the piss out of the kid actors by showing how they'd completely missed the point about the '****' at the beginning of the film.

Lost in translation - well like I say I watched 3/4 of the way through. I picked up a few of the themes Khan mentioned, namely confusion and loneliness, but I also was picking up some sexual tension or chemistry there which disturbed me. I hate the way hollywood often casts leading men and women as romantic interests but with a much, much younger woman. Look at Kill Bill vol. 2 - 67 year old Bill is dating the 35 yr old Uma Thurman. To me it's just not right, and it spoilt my enjoyment of the film (though the film was still pretty good). Well, each to their own I guess, but if they start talking about 'love' I start calling them hypocrites.

Back to Lost In Translation, it's the child/teenage actor thing. Much like most of hollywood, much like the music industry, it all seems down to luck who gets these highly paid jobs, talent is not noticed. ANd with music, I can't like the music if I don't like the people singing it. I'm sure Brittney has some decent tunes written for her, but I refuse to let that skank into my life because I hate her with a passion and everything she represents. Talentless zero who can flash her boobs and get millions of $$$ whilst someone with something worthwhile and a talent worth nurtering is ignored. Oh and the other thing about lost in translation I didn't like was the fact that the 19 yr old was married. Someone dumb enough to get married at 19 deserves all they get.

[Brother None]

In general I would agree, Teatime, I think nobody enjoyed Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars II, but Johansson is something else. See Ghost World if you don't believe me. Or that other flick from the previous year, Girl with a Pearl Earring. Coppola didn't select her for her big boobies, y'know, the girl's got some major talent

 

Of course, Sofia partially picked her because Scarlett's like an acting alter ego of the girl....woman.

 

Oh, and Teas, I felt Lost in Translation did a pretty good job in avoiding sexual chemistry and just making it seem like this strong, deep, spontaneous friendship. But meh

[Mr. Teatime]

Fair enough, I may have to watch it again. What I remember of it though was that the film started with a close up shot of Scarlett's butt in see through panties, and that's not a good way for a film to endear itself to me unless its a porno... the sexual chemistry I remembered from the scene where they go to a party or something, and Johnson's all dolled up with her flashy hair etc and keeps giving sly glances to Murray as she's singing some song about love and how all she needs is that one guy or something...

[Guest Mistress]

Re. child actors - I think the little girl who was in Taken is a great little actress.

[Brother None]

What I remember of it though was that the film started with a close up shot of Scarlett's butt in see through panties, and that's not a good way for a film to endear itself to me unless its a porno...

That shot confused me too, but y'know, it's prolly some kind of statement

 

I was thinking you prolly meant that scene, Teatime. I suppose it's pretty true, the signals do get a bit mixed up right there, and maybe that was the intention, but I still hold it the primary goal was a message of friendship and understanding, "linked souls", not love.

[StillLife]

No need to be so sensitive about it.

I wasn't being overly senstive, really. I must be bad at expressing myself in written words. People seem to always think I'm taking something a lot more seriously than I am. I just haven't seen any examples of what you guys were talking about, so it seemed rather strange.

 

TeaTime is, I think, referring to the fact that a lot of people go to Missy's lair *because* it's run by a chick, whose cyberpanties is a prized item of contest. Like it or not, that's the effect of having a site with a large female presence.

 

Have you seen any evidence that would lead you to that conclusion? Because I honestly haven't. Or is your line of thinking that because a female runs the board, that must be the only reason anyone goes there? A lot people, myself included, migrated there simply because the Interplay boards became reduced to an endless cycle of the same redundant discussions, and it seemed like a good alternative. There were a lot of people already posting there.

 

And StillLife, I do not think you grasp the concept of "emotional maturity" in this context. Missy's lair, nice at might be, is severaly emotionally immature. Not in the sense that posters don't behave and "don't use naughty language", because that has nothing to do with maturity. One of the most mature message forums on the 'net I know of is the infamous AssHats, but they often act like a bunch of clowns or teenagers, and flame each other to hell. Their emotional maturity lies in the sense that they're older and wiser in the ways of life, and are not to be dragged of quickly by petty notions like younger people do. Their opinions on any subject tend strongly to be well-thought out and informed.

 

The first sign of lack of emotional maturity is guys fawning over girls. Every site has this, I mean, this is the internet, go figure, but the level on which your site has this very much determins the emotional mature face of your site.

 

Now underneath it all Missy's Lair might be a grand place of maturity and intellectualism, but on the surface? Tchyeah.

 

But that might just be me.

 

Oh, plus your taste in movies really sucks, I actually caught a post there about Lost in Translation being about rich angst. But at least that statement was supported a bit, the rest of the thread is just pretty inane remarks. <_< (which not is not to say all of the forums I visit are different, but I do tend to skip over those threads)

 

I did join up at NMA by the way, if you don't remember. Though that didn't last long. After trying to defend some russian kid being raked over the coals by half the board for suggesting that maybe the folks there should be more open-minded to BOS, (even though I didn't share that viewpoint) and for his flawed use of the English language, that Roshambo guy decided I had to be banned. How dare I question someones cyber bully routine? Forgive me if I didn't find it to be the bastion of mature discussion. Mature grown men don't need to use the interent as a tool to anonymously harass people. My opinion of course.

 

To me, respect is a sign of maturity. Tolerance for differing opinions is a sign of maturity. For the most part, that seems to be the general attitude I've seen at the Lair. Your experience must have been different I guess, because I also haven't seen anyone "fawning over girls" there. I would like to think that most people have moved past the point of viewing the internet as a global dating service. Then again, maybe I'm just being naive.

 

I haven't seen Lost in Translation. Though I plan on it. I don't think I've even had a discussion about movies at that site, so you must be thinking of someone else. Or by "your" were you referring to everyone that posts there as a singular entity? Because like most people, I'd like to think I'm capable of individual thought. :D

[taks]

intercontinental dating no less... hehe.

 

half the chicks are guys anyway, right?

 

taks

[Cantousent]

...And the other half are ugly. Hey, I'm ugly and malformed myself. Maybe I'm looking for something similar in a woman.

[Mr. Teatime]

I don't think Rosh should be an admin at NMA. I've said it before, have no problem saying it again. Many people agree with me. That doesn't invalidate the Mistress Lair thing which is a different argument.

[howling1]

intercontinental dating no less... hehe.

 

half the chicks are guys anyway, right?

 

taks

Heck, my problem at the Lair is fending the Chicks off of my frail little Dwarven body...

 

( Most of them tho' want my head on a Lance... )

 

:D

[taks]

i see... oh, and i'm married with child.

 

why no rosh as an admin teatime?

 

taks