Capitalism is un-Christian.

[Barothmuk]

If that is all you can say then I think we are done here.  Nice chatting to you.

My responses to these points can already be found in my prior posts. I have no desire to repeat myself.

[FlintlockJazz]

 

If that is all you can say then I think we are done here.  Nice chatting to you.

My responses to these points can already be found in my prior posts. I have no desire to repeat myself.

 

No they are not.

[Barothmuk]

Are so.

[Meshugger]

Now, kiss!

[FlintlockJazz]

Now, kiss!

Not on a first date!  Well, okay sometimes, but dinner first!

[Qistina]

Seems like being a Quranist would be the simplest way to practice Islam.

 

But they are blind, because the prophet way of life reflect the Quran, following Quran without the prophet guidance is blind

 

And in fact, rejecting all hadith is extremism.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

 

 

 

Buddhism is different from philosophy because it assumes several things that are unprovable, including things such as reincarnation

 

I have a feeling you're not overly familiar with Buddhism 

 

Really?  So you saying that there are not any branches of Buddhism that teaches reincarnation then?  Or that people can ascend to Buddhahood (another unprovable belief)?

 

 

On reincarnation.

 

(Also, isn't the Dalai Lama considered to have ascended to Buddhahood?)

 

They may have a different method for it to account for their beliefs but it is still unprovable.

 

Have you even read the thing? The buddhist idea of reincarnation is basically a fancy way of saying "your actions have consequences, yo".

 

 

Also, some people may believe the Dalai Lama has ascended to Buddhahood but then some people believe that they have been abducted by small, grey, aliens who then proceeded to anally ravage them, so who knows? 

 

 

Buddhahood isn't some super mythical status, it effectively means "you're unfazed by the vagaries of life". Buddhism, at its core, is an eminently sensible and - dare I say - scientifically self-evident way of looking at the world and life in general. It may be cloaked in allegory and mysticism, but hey, what do you expect from a millenia-old religion?

[Meshugger]

Why can't you guys just ditch the Buddist-hoopla and join the Theosophical Society instead? It's great! It's super-fun! It's awesome!

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy

 

 

 

Theosophy (from Greek θεοσοφία theosophia, which comes from the combination of words θεός theos, God[1] + σοφία sophia, wisdom; literally "God's wisdom") refers to systems of esotericphilosophy concerning, or seeking direct knowledge of, presumed mysteries of being and nature, particularly concerning the nature of divinity. Theosophy is considered a part of the broader field of esotericism, referring to hidden knowledge or wisdom that offers the individual enlightenment and salvation.

 

They are even working with the U.N. through the Lucis Trust. Just like a lot of elites. Don't you guys want to join the big club? Right? right?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucis_Trust

 

 

 

The Lucis Trust says that the name was probably chosen to honor Lucifer.

 

 

 

In order to place a closer focus on the work of the UN, the Lucis Trust has set up a new blog, World Goodwill at the UN, which will focus on defining new Sustainable Development Goals for humanity after 2015 when the Millennium Development Goals expire.[2]

 

 

 

 

 

See, Qistina? This is how you build up a narrative for a conspiracy: You let the reader get the information himself and build up their imagery around it. Just dumping video-links to RT and various news outlets by random is just lazy as the narrative is already framed without the agency of the reciever. You can thank me later.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Why can't you guys just ditch the Buddist-hoopla and join the Theosophical Society instead? It's great! It's super-fun! It's awesome!

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy

 

 

 

Theosophy (from Greek θεοσοφία theosophia, which comes from the combination of words θεός theos, God[1] + σοφία sophia, wisdom; literally "God's wisdom") refers to systems of esotericphilosophy concerning, or seeking direct knowledge of, presumed mysteries of being and nature, particularly concerning the nature of divinity. Theosophy is considered a part of the broader field of esotericism, referring to hidden knowledge or wisdom that offers the individual enlightenment and salvation.

 

They are even working with the U.N. through the Lucis Trust. Just like a lot of elites. Don't you guys want to join the big club? Right? right?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucis_Trust

 

 

 

The Lucis Trust says that the name was probably chosen to honor Lucifer.

 

 

 

In order to place a closer focus on the work of the UN, the Lucis Trust has set up a new blog, World Goodwill at the UN, which will focus on defining new Sustainable Development Goals for humanity after 2015 when the Millennium Development Goals expire.[2]

 

 

 

They sound like an organization out of a bad '90s World of Darkness supplement 

[Meshugger]

 

Why can't you guys just ditch the Buddist-hoopla and join the Theosophical Society instead? It's great! It's super-fun! It's awesome!

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy

 

 

 

Theosophy (from Greek θεοσοφία theosophia, which comes from the combination of words θεός theos, God[1] + σοφία sophia, wisdom; literally "God's wisdom") refers to systems of esotericphilosophy concerning, or seeking direct knowledge of, presumed mysteries of being and nature, particularly concerning the nature of divinity. Theosophy is considered a part of the broader field of esotericism, referring to hidden knowledge or wisdom that offers the individual enlightenment and salvation.

 

They are even working with the U.N. through the Lucis Trust. Just like a lot of elites. Don't you guys want to join the big club? Right? right?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucis_Trust

 

 

 

The Lucis Trust says that the name was probably chosen to honor Lucifer.

 

 

 

In order to place a closer focus on the work of the UN, the Lucis Trust has set up a new blog, World Goodwill at the UN, which will focus on defining new Sustainable Development Goals for humanity after 2015 when the Millennium Development Goals expire.[2]

 

 

 

They sound like an organization out of a bad '90s World of Darkness supplement 

 

 

Hey, if you wanna LARP as a Ventrue in real life, you better do it with a laugh. 

[Nonek]

I always found the history of Christian movements that aimed for the poverty of the Church to be rather amusing, a new schism arises and gains massive support for opposing the blatant corruption of the Church and its obvious financial nature, the rich in the secular world donate to this movement and boost its popularity for reasons of their own (usually competition.) It becomes powerful, wealthy and makes a few too many wasteful decisions that come from this new wealth they are forced to deal with. In short they become what they set out to oppose, an amusing vicious circle really.

[Gorgon]

I recall that scene from salvation i think it was called (robert deniro)where they heatedly debate whether jesus possessed a purse.

[Nonek]

Its always a conversation that revolves around Jesus' supposed possessions, whether cup, purse or whatever, mainly because no priest wants to shed light on anything but the New Testament when this argument arises, Jesus as an examplar works and can be argued to be the avatar of perfection and practising what one preaches. The Old Testament however, though this is arguable due to the multiple authors, places no real negative stereotypes on wealth and its owenrship, indeed some argue that it aids the accumulation of wealth with various passages and strictures, or advice that would benefit the state rather than individual worshippers. All of this is extremely arguable though, and probably still on-going in various forms.

 

Quoting scripture at each other is usually what these arguments boil down to, and there are enough to enforce or detract from any argument whatsoever.

 

Edit: The Name of the Rose in literature or filmic form is probably one of the better examples of this to the layman, though I agree that the Mission really does bring to light the essential financial and secular nature of the Church, and how it copes with capitalism in the "modern" world.

Edited January 6, 2016 by Nonek

[Namutree]

 

Seems like being a Quranist would be the simplest way to practice Islam.

 

But they are blind, because the prophet way of life reflect the Quran, following Quran without the prophet guidance is blind

 

 

A few questions come to mind.

 

A) Why bother bringing up the fact that stoning isn't mentioned in the Quran if you still consider hadith (which do feature stoning) valid? Unless you only accept hadith that parallel the Quran, but if that's the case; what would such hadith even contribute?

 

B) Why didn't the prophet himself provide for Muslims everything they need?