Gromnir Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 I'm fairly convinced he was guilty too, but that is a rather harsh statement.. or are you just jumping to conclusions to empower an arguement? 'harsh' or being honest? Why tip toe around the topic? He was a vile man who molested children and IMO got what he deserved. If this guy was some average guy who lived down the street from you all the facts the same except we wasn't a singer/celebrity there would be a lynch mob after him and most everyone would be dancing on his grave. But he had some hits in the 80s and only because of that some of you are blinded by that. Its sick and some of you should be disgusted with yourself for celebrating the life of a CHILD MOLESTER. Unreal how celebrities blind some people. I liked some of his songs in the 80s as well does not make him a good person. ...or the guy simply was never mentally fit to become old. Maybe he stayed at the mental age of 8 for the rest of his life. None of his children is biologically his. I bet that he wasn't even interested in any form of sexuality to begin, because that was icky grown-up stuff. I also bet that he died as a virgin. I wouldn't dispute this and say its just as possible. Have you seen the items in his house? A pic of him as jesus with children following him, tons of collectible kid toys on display, a wall sized print if him dressed as royalty with words implying he is some kind of savior and immortal. It's pretty messed up and creepy. Either case he has at LEAST a unhealthy attraction to young boys or was guilty of molesting them. Either case IMO he got what he deserved like all people like that. Love karma. Many celebrities develop a form of jesus-complex during their careers. am not sure if we would say "many." am suspecting that the vast majority o' celebs never go quite so far as thinking that they is jesus or some kinda messiah. on the other hand, Gromnir, a non-celeb, has a jesus complex... but we thinks we is Jesus Dominguez, a plumber with a wife and five children from Los Gatos California. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Hurlshort Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 Like any plumber could afford to live in Los Gatos! I'm not sure about the pedophile charges against Jackson. I think it is more likely that he was mentally unstable and was trying to act out his own childhood.
Gromnir Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 Like any plumber could afford to live in Los Gatos! plumbers can do very well. a friend o' ours from Danville is a plumber... is sending his Second kid to Stanford. obviously he is doing something right. cannot even imagine food/housing costs for 2 kids in palo alto nowadays. tuition is actually relative reasonable at Stanford... something likes 12k a year. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Gromnir Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 (edited) Student Aid some peoples don't want to saddle their child with big debt. admirable. 'tween some part-time work and scholies, Gromnir got his undergrad and grad virtually for free. on the other hand, 3 years o' law school at a public school resulted in considerable reliance on student loans. having been down that road our self, am understanding why parents who have the means is willing to sacrifice for their children... am just not sure how they pull it off nowadays. competition for scholarships is getting so much tougher. as a non-resident, it woulda' been a close call for Gromnir to get accepted into Cal without football paving our way back in the 80's. had a 3.85 and ridiculous high sat scores. 'course we hear all sorta anecdotal stuff 'bout how for a California resident to get into Berkeley now pretty much requires a +4.0 gpa and +2000 on the SAT (am not understanding the new sat scores). lord only knows what non-resident requirements is like. makes you wonder why any out-o-state resident would ever go to Berkeley when with same grades and test scores you could go to yale or princeton instead. shoulda' skipped school and become a plumber... or a ups driver. HA! Good Fun! Edited July 10, 2009 by Gromnir "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Gorth Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 shoulda' skipped school and become a plumber... or a ups driver. Not exactly plumber, but there are days where you wonder if doing what you do is worth it... “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
Meshugger Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 The kid (Jordan Chandler) who accused Jacko of pedophilia admitted he lied, 'cause his father forced him to. Yippie-ka-yay kidf-I'll let you google that for yourselves. There were other cases as well - that was not the first time he had been accused of that crime. The other case was a freakshow of epic proportions. I'll leave the juiciest part for you: The scam was the same all across the board in the Jackson trial. Everyone had a deep, dark secret, a criminal racket or a sordid perversion, which is what their real raison d'etre was, what they really did for a living. The loyal business associate was a gay pornographer. The accuser's mother, the grieving parent of a cancer victim, was a scam artist who allegedly used her son's chemotherapy money to pay for her own plastic surgery. Your continental chef ran a live-sex Web site, and your maid was negotiating with the tabloids about the value of the things hanging on your walls. Even your travel agent was wearing a wire. Linky. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Gorgon Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 The really awful thing about pedophilia or related accusations like sexual harassment, they generally stick permanently even if they aren't true. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Gorgon Posted July 10, 2009 Posted July 10, 2009 (edited) About the trials though, I seriously doubt anyone would come away clean if an army of investigators dig into your past life looking for ammunition to weaken you as a witness. Edited July 10, 2009 by Gorgon Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
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