Purkake Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Something's been bothering me lately. Back in the day I remember having hilarious battles in Fallout, where one NPC hits another and they start fighting each other instead of me. I spent hours engineering an all-out war between the different factions in Fallout 2's Den just to loot the survivors for awesome gear. Also, it was hilarious when the NPCs got a critical failure and their weapon dropped/exploded/shot them in the foot. You can get people to fight each other in Oblivion(yeah), but I can't think of any other games where enemies suffer from random failure and attack each other by chance. What happened to this? Can anyone think of any other games where this happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoma Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Doom. Heretic. Hexen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 Doom. Heretic. Hexen. Yeah, it was pretty hilarious when the enemies mowed each other down in Doom. Enemies also randomly hit each other in Jagged Alliance, X-Com and probably Silent Storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Deus Ex! Hilarity ensued. ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PoziomyPion Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 It also happens in Turok. Funny how it's being impemented in FPS games but not in NEXTGENFULLHD RPGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Yup. However it did surface in the BG's. I remember the end of BG1: Assassin casted a cloudkill in BG's Red Light District, about 20 girls died . ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) It also happens in Turok. Funny how it's being impemented in FPS games but not in NEXTGENFULLHD RPGs. Can the enemies even hurt each other in CoD4 or FEAR2? Maybe the developers are so focused to the "cinematic experience" that everything is heavily scripted and you can't just have enemies shooting each other by accident lest it break the "immersion". I think that just this one thing made games more realistic than Bloom, HD and motion blur combined. Seeing enemies shoot each other in the back and having their guns jam and explode gives games that little believable randomness. Sure, it might break the dramatic tension when someone's gun explodes in their face at a crucial moment, but you know that it could just as well happened to you, plus it's funny as hell. Edited March 4, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Something's been bothering me lately. Back in the day I remember having hilarious battles in Fallout, where one NPC hits another and they start fighting each other instead of me. I spent hours engineering an all-out war between the different factions in Fallout 2's Den just to loot the survivors for awesome gear. Also, it was hilarious when the NPCs got a critical failure and their weapon dropped/exploded/shot them in the foot. You can get people to fight each other in Oblivion(yeah), but I can't think of any other games where enemies suffer from random failure and attack each other by chance. What happened to this? Can anyone think of any other games where this happens? Stop making me want to play Fallout again. I've got enough things going on that I really don't have the time for it. Just stop. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 Something's been bothering me lately. Back in the day I remember having hilarious battles in Fallout, where one NPC hits another and they start fighting each other instead of me. I spent hours engineering an all-out war between the different factions in Fallout 2's Den just to loot the survivors for awesome gear. Also, it was hilarious when the NPCs got a critical failure and their weapon dropped/exploded/shot them in the foot. You can get people to fight each other in Oblivion(yeah), but I can't think of any other games where enemies suffer from random failure and attack each other by chance. What happened to this? Can anyone think of any other games where this happens? Stop making me want to play Fallout again. I've got enough things going on that I really don't have the time for it. Just stop. Busy with JA2 and XCOM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I remember one of the climactic battles of XCOM: Enemy Unknown where my victory was largely due to the Stormtrooper-like marksmanship skillz of the aliens, who kept shooting each other. Doom is another classic. Open door, room full of zombies and demons, fire gun, run away. Go back to room and enjoy the carnage as they all frag each other in their hurry to get you. Cheers MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 That was funny about Fallout. Start a fight with that loan shark at the Den and then go hide behind a cop. As soon as one of his men shot the cop, they would be all over the loan shark and his guys. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 I remember one of the climactic battles of XCOM: Enemy Unknown where my victory was largely due to the Stormtrooper-like marksmanship skillz of the aliens, who kept shooting each other. Doom is another classic. Open door, room full of zombies and demons, fire gun, run away. Go back to room and enjoy the carnage as they all frag each other in their hurry to get you. Cheers MC In XCOM half of the terror missions began with random explosions which I later found out to be Cyber Disks blowing each other up. Suicide bombers? I guess that's a legitimate terrorizing tactic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Happened once or twice in Fallout 3 for me. Nobody likes super mutants. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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