Tale Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Now, so that this thread can be used by those still playing through, I suggest we use spoiler tags still. However, pre-spoiler, we indicate where the spoiler is from. Ex: Act 1 Meryl Dies Not a real spoiler, but that should let you know what I'm talking about. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 There really wasn't anything of Act 1 to discuss that was of note. We'd seen 90% of it from trailers and the remaining 10% was nothing big. But Act II? Roy...Roy... Roy. You married Rose! She's a fox, I'll give you, but it's still Rose! Act III Both 3 and Portable Ops hinted at this. So, I can't say I was too surprised. It seemed more vindicating. Especially Sigint being Donald Anderson, since the theory is oft ridiculed as "all black people are the same." Para-Medic being Naomi's predecessor in Foxhound was something I only had revealed a week ago, too. Apparently she says she's been referred to as "Dr. Quack" in 3. In Japanese, Quack and Clark are similar. Big Mama being the surrogate wasn't a surprise. Though, I'd hoped it wouldn't be true. It was pretty much unecessary except by the desire of the game to answer everything, even the things we don't particularly care about. And I guess it fits since everyone else from 3 had a role. I was amazed though at how much she looked like MGS3 EVA. It was a spooky similarity that I've never seen come from fictional characters. It must have been the eyes. Act IV Nostalgia overload. I knew we'd go there, but I didn't think it'd feel like it did to go back. And I honestly didn't expect us to get that battle at the end. If Rex had been that strong in 1, Snake would have been rightly screwed. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted June 14, 2008 Author Share Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) Act V: Yet another level that's not back to stealth on a battlefield. The whole, 'never dropping alert level, never go lower, be totally ****ed' of the level is a big turn off. And it felt relatively short on gameplay. Ending: Where the **** is my new Metal Gear battle? Rex v. Ray wasn't a new model to fight. I never got to fight Outer Haven. Bastages. All I want is some giant robot to try to stomp me and to have to smash it with a rocket launcher in its weak spots. Is that too much to ask? The twist of Naomi revealing that it was changed to destroy all the AIs and essentially put the Patriots out of business was weak. And Snake's death. On to this. The guy just wouldn't die. Took him FOREVER. He just hung around talking while dying. Took forever before he finally kicked it. Edited June 14, 2008 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 I saw what you did with that last part! I was annoyed at the marriage... it was forced and kinda stupid overall. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Damn you Tale you bastard, I read them all and after going to wiki I realized you lied How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted June 15, 2008 Author Share Posted June 15, 2008 I saw what you did with that last part! I was annoyed at the marriage... it was forced and kinda stupid overall. I don't know about "forced," but both the marriage and the reunion were out of place. Would have been better served as footnotes, really. Someone coming along and commenting on it so we know it happened, no need for us to see it. It just kind of put in unnecessary soap drama into it. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 ya know, I didn't realize that you could kill the B&B corp with regular weapons then tranq her on the second part of the fight until AFTER I killed Mantis. I'm just going to say that Raging Raven is hard as all HELL when trying to tranq your way through her armor. (goes to stock up on Stingers) Also they shouldn't have named it guns of the patriots, it should be Metal Gear Solid 4: It's all Naomi's fault! Why doesn't naomi EVER wear a bra? Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 (edited) Why doesn't naomi EVER wear a bra? It's a recurring thing. Sniper Wolf and The Boss didn't wear one, either. But EVA did and Fortune was wearing a wetsuit. They just play around with variations on it. Edited June 16, 2008 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 wierd part is that apparently when your tracking naomi, when you find her hankie if you look around you find a bra. and the boss had an excuse to be braless, that suit she wore looked like it would give some support. Naomi just seemed to be trying to corrupt sunny Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor Qel Droma Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Damn you Tale you bastard, I read them all and after going to wiki I realized you lied And this suprises you how? Jaguars4ever is still alive. No word of a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xard Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Well, "Snake dying" was kinda beliavable you know How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 wierd part is that apparently when your tracking naomi, when you find her hankie if you look around you find a bra. and the boss had an excuse to be braless, that suit she wore looked like it would give some support. Naomi just seemed to be trying to corrupt sunny You don't find Naomi's bra. That's one of the false trails. Damn you Tale you bastard, I read them all and after going to wiki I realized you lied And this suprises you how? I lied about nothing! Well, "Snake dying" was kinda beliavable you know Snake did die. Ask Calex. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoma Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Considering about the mutation of FoxDie on the last carrier, I wonder what will it do to him? Personally, I hope it doesn't kill but rather make him kind of immortal/longer lifespan similar to Vamp. Otherwise it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 The MGS arc is over and Snake will just live a civvie life until death. Ho hum. I have one main gripe with the game, that they took MGS' greatest character, Revolver Ocelot, and mulched him in favor of Liquid's "mwahaha" eurotrash Bond villain. Seriously, Ocelot's in the game for a third of a fight, and he's given at most 3 lines. Total bull****. But the game is good, IF you know all there is to know about MGS up to this point (there's a fairly good 6-part retrospective on Gametrailers for the uninitiated) every single still-living character in the game universe gets face time. There are homages and references galore (The man who sells "Naked" Snake his Guns? Drebbin.) to eat up. In particular the relationship dynamics of the MGS games have been recycled over and over, with several different characters having the same cyclical life stories, and scenes from past games being constantly replayed. Still, the storyline is negligible. Kojima did the best job he could tying up all his disparate games into a single monolithic arc, but the results aren't entirely convincing, even if they pack some fun thrills here and there. I can accept the melodrama, it's part of the package. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I thought the very last scene created a MASSIVE copout (supposedly Hideo's origional ending was shut down by his design team, his publishers, and a few others in the production) I am still frustrated that they spent an entire game making Ocelot's character unique then toss it out the window in favor of Lawl Liquid. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 I thought the very last scene created a MASSIVE copout (supposedly Hideo's origional ending was shut down by his design team, his publishers, and a few others in the production) His original ending was to have Snake and Otacon arrested. Not dead. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I thought the very last scene created a MASSIVE copout (supposedly Hideo's origional ending was shut down by his design team, his publishers, and a few others in the production) His original ending was to have Snake and Otacon arrested. Not dead. actually arrested and EXECUTED! Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 (edited) I thought the very last scene created a MASSIVE copout (supposedly Hideo's origional ending was shut down by his design team, his publishers, and a few others in the production) His original ending was to have Snake and Otacon arrested. Not dead. actually arrested and EXECUTED! I call shenanigans. Arrested and to be executed, maybe. Edited June 25, 2008 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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