Question about the dialogue in Gameinformer

[Humodour]

Personally I enjoy violence and sex.

 

That reminds me of the spy TV series Burn Notice. That Irish chick is so violently sexy.

[LostStraw]

I'd much rather have violence in my games than sex and at least in the US video games aren't banned (poor Australia).

 

Censorship only comes about because AO games would mean fewer sales -- one of the reasons being that large retailers refuse to carry anything above a M rating. It's a problem with the general American culture, not the ESRB rating system (the rating system simply reflects the culture and ideals). And there's no "quick fix" to change culture save some sort of mass invasion.

 

Even if the ESRB were to start labeling AO games as M I think it would only serve to cause retailers to be selective about what M rated games they carry. Of course I could be wrong and the only reason retailers don't carry AO rated games is because of the social stigma attached to the words "Adults Only."

[Humodour]

That list of banned Australian games is fine. Most of them are the dregs of gaming anyway, like GTA.

 

It's Brazil that suffers. Check out its list. Kinda nonsensical if you ask me.

 

"The various Pok

[Deadly_Nightshade]

Of course I could be wrong and the only reason retailers don't carry AO rated games is because of the social stigma attached to the words "Adults Only."

 

That is the main reason, they will gladly carry a game that is M - but if it were to be labeled "AO" it would be pulled off the shelves.

[Pop]

That list of banned Australian games is fine. Most of them are the dregs of gaming anyway, like GTA.

hurrrr

[Humodour]

I knew that would get a response.

[bronzepoem]

Haha, and any game that depicts Taiwan or Tibet as independent countries gets banned in China, even if historically true. Pathetic.

Oh~~~Tibet is a hypersensitive theme.

You know there are so many parts of China have been independent countries.

[Humodour]

Haha, and any game that depicts Taiwan or Tibet as independent countries gets banned in China, even if historically true. Pathetic.

Oh~~~Tibet is a hypersensitive theme.

You know there are so many parts of China have been independent countries.

 

Oh believe me I know. We can discuss it via PM if you want, rather than derail this thread. But I'm resigned to the fact that Tibet will remain part of China; I worry more about Taiwan.

[Zoma]

Taiwan is in good hands at the meantime. So there's little need to worry.

 

Besides, China historically does not have a conquestic mindset like the Romans and such and is known to only enforce soft diplomacy by accepting vassals.

[bronzepoem]

Chinese history is an interesting area. There was a very powerful empires Qin(221 BC) which was similar to Rome. It's unbeatable army have crossbow 1200 years earilier than Europe. Qin was keening on couquering and legal system. But it growed up quickly and downfalled quickly. So after Qin, Chinese empires believe conquering and legal system are unwisdom ideas.

 

About Tibet, there are deeply culture and religion problems which couldn't solve by any simple way. Taiwan have no deeply problems, it have totally same culture with mainland. It's just a boring political game between two governments.

 

So...am I derail this thread In fact, I'm just suggest that add Lhasa into AP is a good idea~

[Humodour]

Taiwan have no deeply problems, it have totally same culture with mainland. It's just a boring political game between two governments.

 

No it doesn't; it was rather strongly influenced by Japanese culture and occupation, and in the 50 years apart from mainland China it has continued to diverge slightly in attitude, culture and ideology (e.g. favouring democracy, not communism). Certainly Taiwan and China have the same basic history and culture, but their present-day cultures are not "totally the same".

[bronzepoem]

Taiwan have no deeply problems, it have totally same culture with mainland. It's just a boring political game between two governments.

 

No it doesn't; it was rather strongly influenced by Japanese culture and occupation, and in the 50 years apart from mainland China it has continued to diverge slightly in attitude, culture and ideology (e.g. favouring democracy, not communism). Certainly Taiwan and China have the same basic history and culture, but their present-day cultures are not "totally the same".

50 years Japanese culture influence is very exiguity comparing with 5000 years Chinese culture. In fact Japanese culture is very similar with Tang culture of China. I have many Taiwan friends, it's hardly to differentiate them with my mainland friends.

If Obsidian need any Taipei informaiton, I think I could ask them to help~

[Humodour]

Taiwan have no deeply problems, it have totally same culture with mainland. It's just a boring political game between two governments.

 

No it doesn't; it was rather strongly influenced by Japanese culture and occupation, and in the 50 years apart from mainland China it has continued to diverge slightly in attitude, culture and ideology (e.g. favouring democracy, not communism). Certainly Taiwan and China have the same basic history and culture, but their present-day cultures are not "totally the same".

50 years Japanese culture influence is very exiguity comparing with 5000 years Chinese culture. In fact Japanese culture is very similar with Tang culture of China. I have many Taiwan friends, it's hardly to differentiate them with my mainland friends.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Ta...se_localization

http://www.asia-planet.net/taiwan/culture.htm

 

I'm not saying Taiwan doesn't have Chinese culture. I'm saying it's not "exactly the same culture as China", to paraphrase you. It's certainly a distinct culture, however similar.

 

You should visit it.

[bronzepoem]

Taiwan have no deeply problems, it have totally same culture with mainland. It's just a boring political game between two governments.

 

No it doesn't; it was rather strongly influenced by Japanese culture and occupation, and in the 50 years apart from mainland China it has continued to diverge slightly in attitude, culture and ideology (e.g. favouring democracy, not communism). Certainly Taiwan and China have the same basic history and culture, but their present-day cultures are not "totally the same".

50 years Japanese culture influence is very exiguity comparing with 5000 years Chinese culture. In fact Japanese culture is very similar with Tang culture of China. I have many Taiwan friends, it's hardly to differentiate them with my mainland friends.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Ta...se_localization

http://www.asia-planet.net/taiwan/culture.htm

 

I'm not saying Taiwan doesn't have Chinese culture. I'm saying it's not "exactly the same culture as China", to paraphrase you. It's certainly a distinct culture, however similar.

 

You should visit it.

 

Hehe,culture always is a interesting topic. I love to discuss it. You know? in fact the "Chinese culture" you metioned is "Han culture". Han race is the biggest race in the 56 races of China. For example,me .

But in Sinkiang(westest province and biggest province), Uighur race's culture is the main culture. They are white people and Islam is their religion. In the south-west province Yunnan, Naxi race and Yi race are mainstream. They have a Pantheism religion.It's really mysterious. Do you guys know Gong Tau ? The Northest province Inner Mongolia, Mongolian people riding horse and believe Shamanism. I'm living in a south-east province, when I traveled to those provinces, the feeling is just like I'm traveling in another country.

Even in the same Han race, there are great difference between defferent area.In North area, for example Beijing people, their language, food and some lifestyle are hardly understund for me. Compare with Beijing people, Taiwan people are much similar with us south guys. Their aboriginal culture are very interesting. This culture we called “台客文化” are very popular in south Chinese today( thanks for the Taiwan TV show). Also we have our unqiue aboriginal culture, we have most beautiful poem and lyric(a literature similar to poem) which can retrospect to the period Han empires haven't couquer south China. About the colonial culture, you know Beijing culture and North culture have a big part brought from Qing Dynasty(not Qin)---the last dynasty of China built by a nomads race---Man. In fact braided,Kowtow and so many features you see in recent 400 hundreds are conlonial culture. Even today some Han people don't accept Man culture are one part of Chinese culture.

So, Chinese culture are so complex to definite. We couldn't say Taiwan culture isn't Chinese culture just as we couldn't say Yunnan culture isn't Chinese culture. At least for myself, Taiwan people are easilier to understand than Beijing people~

 

 

God, am I in a thread named "Question about the dialogue in Gameinformer"?

Edited April 26, 2008 by bronzepoem

[Fionavar]

I do believe we have arrived at a point of tangent. Please feel free to continue this discussion in WoT. It is always great to see non-linear conversations that are rich!