Bioshock 2 concept art revealed

[Morgoth]

Click

 

From the concept art, it rather looks like it will be a prequel, perhaps during the construction of Rapture on the surface? Anyways, looks sweet and tyte.

[Musopticon?]

Very tyte! From the looks of it, those concept arts might be from an opening ride similar to the one in Bioshock. This time set in a construction yard and a train car.

 

 

Furthermore, let me acknowledge my joy of finally getting a sequel to an original game I like that's not done by a separate studio and company years later.

Edited March 2, 2008 by Musopticon?

[Hurlshort]

My guess is that a Zepellin will be involved in some way.

[Sand]

I wasn't really all that impressed with the original.

[Musopticon?]

I wasn't really impressed with your face to begin with.

[Pop]

Apparently this is not official.

[Slowtrain]

I wasn't really all that impressed with the original.

 

 

Totally agree, but I always have hope that when the same team (mostly) can make a sequel they will make improvements. Jagged Alliance 1 wasn't NEARLY (not even close) the awesome game that Jagged Alliance 2 became. When a different design team with a different vision picks up the rights to do a sequel, I think there is less opportunity for improvement. Bioshock had potential, it was just nerfed due to its desire to be the simplistic computer equivalent of knocking colored pegs through their matching holes with a bright red plastic hammer.

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

A prequel sounds like the perfect way to go with this series.

[Krookie]

I love Bioshock. I should really re-play it.

[Sand]

My main problem with BioShock is that there is no threat of death. You die, you just pop out of a cloning booth. You die again, you again pop right out of a cloning booth, ad nauseum. There is no danger, no thrills, nothing fun in a game like that. Well, at least for me.

[Krookie]

I wouldn't exactly say "no thrill", because Fort Frolic scared the crap out of me.

[Sand]

I just can't get scared in a game without permadeath.

[Krookie]

Fair enough. I thought the game was easy too, that was my main complaint with the vita-chambers.

[Nick_i_am]

now that the hard patch is out I might pick it up.

 

What sand is really complaining about, however, is lack of warewolves.

[Sand]

QUEIT YOU!

[Morgoth]

Oh well, false alarm, people. Click

 

Update: The author behind these images just got back to me, saying these are not official BioShock concept drawings. In his own words:

[Jorian Drake]

hmm

Edited March 3, 2008 by Jorian Drake

[Musopticon?]

Oh, well. I like them.

[Xard]

They're darn good, no wonder those could be thought as real concept art

[Jorian Drake]

They're darn good, no wonder those could be thought as real concept art

 

note to someone from Obsidian: go grab the artist!

[Janmanden]

I just can't get scared in a game without permadeath.

Death is not scary, it's what happens before you die, that's scary.

 

Reloading saved games or using vita-chambers; it's the same kind of cheating, except reloading is worse.. imo.

 

Permadeath? Imagine that, worst case scenario: you die.. last screen you see before the game exits to windows and uninstalls itself permanently is "Game Over" and then 2K's homepage is updated with your retail copy as "R.I.P.-OFF".

 

Hm.. no thanks.

[Krookie]

The problem with the Vita Chambers is that there was virtually no penalty for death. Besides respawning at half health/EVE, your enemy's health wasn't reset, making the game more about perseverance (respawning, shoot, dying, repeat), than about strategy.

[Slowtrain]

The problem with the Vita Chambers is that there was virtually no penalty for death.

 

 

Exaactly. Death in computer games isn't really about your player character(s) "dying" (unles you are playing an Iron Man type of thingie like in Wiz , it's about a game giving you some reason to avoid having your player character(s) die, ie the penalty. Bioshock not only had no penalties attached to pc death, but it really encouraged your pc to seek death (although not in an interesting way like PS:T might have) which just seems remarkably dumb in a FPS game.

 

IMO, Levine simply wanted to make a game that was incredibly easy and simple. WHich he did. It was also boring. WHich probably follows logically, I suppose.

[Krookie]

I still disagree that Bioshock was "boring", because it still had a great gameplay and a great story. The Vita-Chambers were a mistake, yes, but it didn't ruin the game for me.

[Slowtrain]

I still disagree that Bioshock was "boring", because it still had a great gameplay and a great story. The Vita-Chambers were a mistake, yes, but it didn't ruin the game for me.

 

 

I probably wouldn't have found it as disappointing if I hadn't played System Shock 1 and 2 to death. And disappinting is a key word here. I don't think Bioshock was a bad game, just a whole lot less compelling than I was hoping for. It's quite similar to my reaction to Deus EX and and its follow up Invisible War. Even though Bioshock isn't a "sequel" in the traditional sense, more like a remake.

 

But let's be honest. The little sisters and big daddy AIs were cool at first, but when they kept doing the exact same behavior level after level with 0 variation, the initial thrill quickly passed into monotony, at least for me.

 

I actually disagreee that the VIta chambers were the biggest problem. They really just function as autosave points, simply deactivating them in the game isn't really going to improve the experience of the gameplay.