Krookie Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Tale, I can sell you it for like $10. I have two copies.
Tale Posted August 31, 2007 Author Posted August 31, 2007 Tale, I can sell you it for like $10. I have two copies. Please PM me with payment options. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Pidesco Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 He said 10$, but he actually wants your lovin'. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend.
Meshugger Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 If you haven't tried System Shock 2, then i can presume that haven't tried Deus Ex as well. Anyone on this forum can recommend Deus Ex as much as System Shock 2 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
MLMarkland Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 I find myself browsing my Amazon.com recommendation and wishlist a lot lately. So, I think I should find a new game to buy. And by new game, I mean old game. So, I come here to find a recommendation from you guys, hoping you'll recommend me something I may have missed or forgotten. Things I'm considering: System Shock 2, but $50 for a used copy with just a sleeve sounds a bit steep. Arcanum, same as System Shock 2 Fallout 2, but I'm wary. I do massively prefer Baldur's Gate II to Fallout I if that helps shed light on my RP preferences. I think it's more a preference for interactions and story than for the mechanics in RPGs. Katamari Damacy, but maybe it's just too wacky. Could it's popularity be gimmick based? Or is there something solid there. Speak of your favorite games of past years. Say what you liked about them. I'm not going to bother mentioning more of what I've already played because I want this to be useful to others besides just me. Fallout 2 is the most bang for your buck from that list. If you haven't played Bloodlines you should add it to the list. Rogue Dao Studios The Planescape Trilogy
Tale Posted August 31, 2007 Author Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) Care to give any details about the games? What you particularly enjoy about them? I've looked at reviews for many of them, but a lot the reviews themselves are dated or overly generic. Edit: Also, I hate you Krookie. Edited August 31, 2007 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Hurlshort Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 JA2 takes place in a war torn country where an bitchy dictator rules with an iron fist. You can send her flowers if you'd like. You are in control of a small mercenary company, and you capture towns and mines as you slowly take over the country. As you take over towns, you can also train troops to guard them and in the new version, they even go out patrolling. It's open ended, so you can go after whatever territory you want, in fact you can even make a beeline straight for the capital (although that's not very easy without cheating to get great mercs.) As your mercs fight, they increase their skills, meaning the mediocre ones can be very effective by the end of the game. The setting works, but it's the characters that really bring JA2 to life. The mercenaries all have very unique personalities, many bordering on psychotic. They are extremely entertaining. The combat is some of the best turn based combat out there. It's similiar to Xcom or Silent Storm, although I'd argue it's still better than either. The weapons and equipment are extremely detailed and it really feels like they accurately depict the variety of ammo and weaponry in a modern warzone. Equipment is a big concern, and it's common for my mercs to have an aussault rifle or two, a couple grenades, a backup sidearm, and even a knife or two.
Tale Posted August 31, 2007 Author Posted August 31, 2007 Time to hunt Amazon for JA2, then! Thanks. I'm especially interested because of what you say about the personalities of the mercs. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Tale Posted August 31, 2007 Author Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) My Amazon.com cart has Katamari Damacy and Jagged Alliance 2. Haven't gone through with purchasing, yet. Undecided on Katamari. Edited August 31, 2007 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Big Bottom Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) JA2 is also available on Steam. And I'm not fully on the side of abandonware but in the case of System Shock 2 everyone should have a chance to play it. And btw you can pick up a second hand copy of SS2 for Edited August 31, 2007 by Big Bottom The best flash game ever!
Tale Posted August 31, 2007 Author Posted August 31, 2007 I probably would have purchased JA2 over Steam, but I've heard nothing but bugs about that version. Missing content for some reason. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Monte Carlo Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Some of the Mercs (A) hate each other (B) develop mutual fan clubs (B) something inbetween. Vultures eat corpses, mercs barf, you can marry female mercs off to hillbillies, you can commandeer an ice cream truck, buy guns in an adult movie store, get involved in prize-fighting, use mortars, make hundred yard headshots, sit on a rooftop with a Barratt light fifty, make things using springs, duct tape and stuff in an open-ended game world that feels like an agreeably schlocky straight-to-video Steven Seagal movie. Any game that has a "Tons of Guns" option at the startup screen has got to be a winner. Never played a game like it before or since, love it to bits. Cheers MC
Hurlshort Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Yeah, I'd avoid JA2 over steam for those very reasons. Don't forget to apply the 1.13 mod, as it lets you change the resolution to much higher settings and generally improves the game. It doesn't affect the story, just adds options. Also, don't hesitate to recruit mercs with low skills in the early game. Guys like Razor and Haywire are psycho, but they build their skills quickly and can easily become lethal soldiers. It's the wisdom score that actually really matters, as that determines how quickly they build a skill. You really only need one or two accurate people in the beginning of the game, the rest will develop over time.
Tale Posted August 31, 2007 Author Posted August 31, 2007 JA2, Katamari Damacy, and I threw in Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past for GBA are all on their way. All new copies, too. ^_^ "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Slowtrain Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 actually I would suggest playing the game first without the 1.13 mod since the mod makes sweeping changes to the game, many of which were wanted by people who have been playing Jag 2 for years and consequently make the game significantly harder. And I will say this: Infinity ENgine combat this ain't; combat is HARD when you are first learning the game. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Azure79 Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Great, now I want to play JA2. I have a copy at home, just never got around to it. I recommend Beyond Good and Evil and Psychonauts. They are not RPGs but they are fun to play and have some memorable characters.
Tale Posted August 31, 2007 Author Posted August 31, 2007 Beyond Good and Evil is good, I have it on my to replay list. I played the demo for Psychonauts over Steam when it first was available through that means, but I had trouble getting into it. It seemed a bit too much platformer for my taste at the time. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Slowtrain Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Why I would not recommend playing with 1.13: WIthout playing the original game, you would never how totally out of balance insanely difficult the game is in these screenies. This is stuff that was put in for people who know Jag 2 inside and out. Unless you have an incredible tolerance for frustration, I think it would totally ruin your game experience. Play Jag 2 gold patched to 1.12 first. If it goes well and you really like it, then consider adding the 1.13 addition. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Hurlshort Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Hmm, is 1.13 really that difficult if you play on the easy setting? I think I played it on medium recently and I don't remember being too overwhelmed, but I have been playing it for years, so I guess I'm a lousy judge. My only concern is that the resolution will turn Tale off from the game. It shows its age without 1.13.
Tale Posted August 31, 2007 Author Posted August 31, 2007 You may have me confused with Bok. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Slowtrain Posted August 31, 2007 Posted August 31, 2007 Hmm, is 1.13 really that difficult if you play on the easy setting? I think I played it on medium recently and I don't remember being too overwhelmed, but I have been playing it for years, so I guess I'm a lousy judge. My only concern is that the resolution will turn Tale off from the game. It shows its age without 1.13. erhm, no. I'm playing on expert. But still, stuff like the Drassen counterattack is there regardless. Tru you can turn it off in the jag2options.ini, but again, I think having somebody new to the game have to go through an ini file making changes is not conducive to a fun gaming experience. And vanilla Jag 2 is a fantastic game. the 1.13 mod just makes it harder and more complictated for those who have played the venilla Jag 2 to death. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Humodour Posted October 17, 2007 Posted October 17, 2007 My ten favourite games in no order: System Shock 2 Half-Life 1 and Opposing Forces Fallout 1 Fallout 2 Planescape: Torment Icewind Dale 1 VtM: Bloodlines Deus Ex 1 Giants: Citizen Kabuto - this is a game I recommend to EVERYBODY... it's so unique KoTOR 1 Other stuff: Deus Ex 2 should never have been made. Icewind Dale 2 is a decent dungeon romp but isn't as awesome as IWD1. KOTOR 2 is a decent RPG. It is also unfinished, IMHO. Half-Life 2 is one of the best pure FPS games ever, but I don't think it was anything special when compared with HL1. Jazz Jackrabbit 1 and 2 are veru fun 2D side-scrollers if you're up for a bit of adrenaline. Age of Empires 1 and 2 (not 3) are awesome RTS games. Worms 2 is great fun to play with a few friends, optionally while drunk. Dungeon Siege 1 is a beautiful game, if somewhat boring. Dungeon Siege 2 is a big improvement, being playable exactly once, but being great fun that one time. Nox and Revenant are two old RPGs which are kind of interesting. Worth playing if you can find them. Of all the games so far, the one I must recommend the most is Giants: Citizen Kabuto. A stunning game... I couldn't really pinpoint it to one genre, though.
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