Llyranor Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 That's harrassment. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Its not the specific opponent that I am talking about. It is the situation itself in which you know your life is in danger. That you have a damn good chance of getting killed. In that sort of harried situation, regardless of the opponent, most people are not going to be thinking straight and be able to solve puzzles. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am pretty sure that most people, upon recognizing the futility of their current actions, are going to look for alternative solutions. Though to be honest, "most" people wouldn't do much in a combat situation. "Most" people would probably cower in fear. "Most" people wouldn't last long enough to even have a straight fight, let alone think about a puzzle. The thing is, in a video game, do you really play a character that is like "most" people, or are you perhaps a bit more cognizant of your actions when your character is understress. You say you play the game through the eyes of your character. So when your vampire saw Nines (who already saved your ass on more than one occassion, and is immensely respected by friend and foe alike) shaking in his boots because of the prospect of a possible werewolf being in the area, you figured you'd do what "most" people would do, and shoot at the creature that Nines just said was futile to go up against? In fact, I'd think that "most" people would probably run into the observatory out of fear itself. Fight or Flight. Those that fight would get killed, so you might as well go with flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Most people would run away as fast as they can, like me. No mr. werewolf don't hurt me. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 That does not change th fact that they made the werewolf invulnerable. Now the way I would have done it is have the time limit, made the werewolf still have its strong attacks, but vulnerable to damage and killable. However it would have major damage reduction and hit points. It still a pretty much a killing machine but those who have the stronger weapons, such as the uber machine guns and flamethrowers, can kill it in a sustained fight. Now the ammo usage will most probably make this not a cost effective option but nonetheless the option is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 (edited) Maybe you should stop playing Troika games, given their awful design track record. You're in luck. They're defunct. Edited September 9, 2006 by Llyranor (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 (edited) Unfortunately Bloodlines did not survive my reformat, so I can't check what weapons you would actually have available to you, though according to Spider, it sounds like the Flamethrower wouldn't have been too effective. Furthermore, a big problem with something like this is that it poses a very obvious advantage to players that use guns, since I doubt a brujah is going to really be able to punch it to death. When you start making various characters have a significant disadvantage to other builds, then that's when you start getting into poor design. Edited September 9, 2006 by alanschu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 It still a pretty much a killing machine but those who have the stronger weapons, such as the uber machine guns and flamethrowers, can kill it in a sustained fight. Now the ammo usage will most probably make this not a cost effective option but nonetheless the option is there. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think this would cheapen the weerewolf too much. Machine guns and flamethrowers shouldn't cut it against werewolves. They're tougher than that. Bring silver or stay at home. (or at least some sort of magical weaponry) As for what weaponry is available, I'm pretty sure you can have the flamethrower by that time. Still shouldn't be enough imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I think you can too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Decapitation with a sword would put a werewolf out of business. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Good luck doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 (edited) "Would you mind standing still and not blocking my blows so I can decapitate you?" "Aooowrrrrrrrr, followerrrrrr of Wurrrrmm graaaahhh!!!*snap*" "Guess not then...was worth a try" Edited September 9, 2006 by Musopticon? kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Not I. Something standing over 8' + weighing over 400lbs, I would run away. Ekkk! I would make for a poor adventurer. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 In real life combat situation I would totally own werewolf. I agree with Hades. He is sarmt and stuff! This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I would fail at being an intrepid adventurer. Unless I had magic at my disposal. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 "Would you mind standing still and not blocking my blows so I can decapitate you?""Aooowrrrrrrrr, followerrrrrr of Wurrrrmm graaaahhh!!!*snap*" "Guess not then...was worth a try" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did that werewolf just say he's a follower of Wurm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 In real life combat situation I would totally own werewolf. I agree with Hades. He is sarmt and stuff! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Another person with thier head stuck up their ass. Company for you, Llyr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Unfortunately Bloodlines did not survive my reformat, so I can't check what weapons you would actually have available to you, though according to Spider, it sounds like the Flamethrower wouldn't have been too effective. Furthermore, a big problem with something like this is that it poses a very obvious advantage to players that use guns, since I doubt a brujah is going to really be able to punch it to death. When you start making various characters have a significant disadvantage to other builds, then that's when you start getting into poor design. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is why the Observation doors would still be an option. The point is even thought the werewolf is tough it is not invincible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Meh, someone else can aquient you with World of Darkness-fluff. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 In real life combat situation I would totally own werewolf. I agree with Hades. He is sarmt and stuff! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Another person with thier head stuck up their ass. Company for you, Llyr. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But but I own werewolfes every day. You shouldn This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Yeah, and you should know that all Helsinkians, including Kiro-kun, are vampires. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Unfortunately Bloodlines did not survive my reformat, so I can't check what weapons you would actually have available to you, though according to Spider, it sounds like the Flamethrower wouldn't have been too effective. Furthermore, a big problem with something like this is that it poses a very obvious advantage to players that use guns, since I doubt a brujah is going to really be able to punch it to death. When you start making various characters have a significant disadvantage to other builds, then that's when you start getting into poor design. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is why the Observation doors would still be an option. The point is even thought the werewolf is tough it is not invincible. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, it's poor design. One group of people get easy street where they just flame the thing down, and make the scene exceptionally anticlimactic, where the other group has to actually survive the werewolf and is essentially defenseless and has a much more difficult time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Did I say the flamethrower would kill the werewolf easily? Nope. I said it would damage the werewolf but still be a very very very difficult and tough opponent. Just not invincible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 The flamethrower would make the werewolf's problem with hair nonexistent. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Yeah, and you should know that all Helsinkians, including Kiro-kun, are vampires. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And drunken vampires at best! I just got home from a bar. Luckily no werewolves this night. I got invited to birthday party next weekend. Leena-chan: "Vilma said it This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Bald werewolfs? On second thought lets not use the flamethrower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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