One thing that came to mind now that I think about it, where were Master Vandar and Master Zhar (and maybe a few other notables) at the meeting where the Exile was removed from the Order? They were around at that time, and from that droid on Dantooine, you can see that Vandar has some praise and admiration in her, something Vrook didn't (and obviously never does). I think he (Vandar) wouldn't have been as quick to exile the Exile out of the Jedi Order. And I'm sure some other Jedi Masters that were around at that time would have seen something they (Vrook and company) didn't see and mde their objections a bit more vocal.

Clearly Vandar and Zhar were not on the jedi council on Coruscant at the time. Looking at the KotOR comic books, it seems that Vandar was on the "council" at the enclave on Dantooine, though, and perhaps Zhar was too.

 

This suggests that Vrook left the council on Coruscant to teach at the enclave. Hmm, that actually redeems the masters a little in my eyes, since it means they finally realised his charming personality and kicked him out

Perhaps the Jedi regularly switch positions between the Dantooine Council and the Coruscant council?

Edited June 17, 200619 yr by Accelerator

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I can hear the masters now...

 

"No, Vrook - this is a promotion for you. Really!"

 

 

I believe that jedi can be master in both counsils

Perhaps the Jedi Council got tired of Vrook's constant bickering and said "ehh..Vrook, you see, we need strict teachers like you to teach at the Jedi Enclave on Dantooine. Err...this is a promotion. Go there now."

Didn't Vandar get killed sometime when the Jedi met? Because I thought I heard someone talking about Darth Nihilus killing everything on the planet where the Jedi met.

Yes he died on Katarr, the Miraluka world. With other jedi and masters I might add.

Yes he died on Katarr, the Miraluka world. With other jedi and masters I might add.

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Yes but that was after.

Perhaps the trial was a secret that was kept from the other council members.There was alot of empty seats in the chamber and it wasn't much of a trial to begin with.

Yes he died on Katarr, the Miraluka world. With other jedi and masters I might add.

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Yes but that was after.

Perhaps the trial was a secret that was kept from the other council members.There was alot of empty seats in the chamber and it wasn't much of a trial to begin with.

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Perhaps the other council members were busy playing cards

 

Or maybe the Council seats were empty because many Masters were out on campaigns?

Vrook was never permanently transferred from one council to another.

He was on the Dantooine Council as early as 3,993 BBY (Shadows and Light) and 3,964 BBY (KOTOR comics). Exile's exile (the Coruscant flashback in K2) takes place in 3,960 BBY, after the Battle of Malachor V. K1 takes place in 3,956 BBY. I guess Vrook was "temporarily" summoned to Coruscant for Exile's trial or just happened to be there at the moment.

Yes he died on Katarr, the Miraluka world. With other jedi and masters I might add.

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Which was mentioned in K2's chronicles and hardly related to its story through character dialogue.

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Your point being?

Anyway, how does the Katarr incident relate to Exile's trial? It occurred way later.

 

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Perhaps the other council members were busy playing cards

 

Or maybe the Council seats were empty because many Masters were out on campaigns?

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Yes that is possible,probably Nar Shadda rules...all that talk of decency.

But But I thought Vandar moonlighted as a cantina dancer.

Out on campains?When did the masters decide to do anything besides debate how to deal with naughty little jedi Revan and how to brainwash Bastilla or other Jedi to follow thier archaic code?Seriously they did nothing before the war why start now. Lets blame someone else for our impending doom.

I say,kill em all. :ph34r:

Vrook was never permanently transferred from one council to another.

He was on the Dantooine Council as early as 3,993 BBY (Shadows and Light) and 3,964 BBY (KOTOR comics). Exile's exile (the Coruscant flashback in K2) takes place in 3,960 BBY, after the Battle of Malachor V. K1 takes place in 3,956 BBY. I guess Vrook was "temporarily" summoned to Coruscant for Exile's trial or just happened to be there at the moment.

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Which makes it all the more peculiar as to why he would be there and the others wouldn't... I doubt he would be the only one hopping from the Outer Rim to the center of the galaxy just to give the Exile her namesake

Maybe Vrook was a member of the Covenant and the "Jedi associate" needed him on Coruscant? (As to why Lucien isn't there, he may be dead by then.)

Your point being?

Anyway, how does the Katarr incident relate to Exile's trial? It occurred way later.

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Actually, you are right. It is just a bit frustrating having to wait for TSL Restoration team and M4-78 team to be done with K2 patches.

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Now, what does THAT have to do with the topic?

Now, what does THAT have to do with the topic?

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Perhaps their suggesting the other masters were there,doubt it though.

Or there thinking it was a conspiracy from the droids no thats the sallustans.

Or that SOME EARTH SHATTERING REVELATION shall be revealed by some unrelated patch..... to much sarcasm?

Neither TSLRP nor the M4-78 project will touch Exile's trial.

everyone.....in kotor 1 revan asks that at begining...he said he wasnt in the council on corusant.....because that was the high council.....

Coruscant was probably hardly featured as a visual location in K2 apart from the Exile's trial.

One thing that came to mind now that I think about it, where were Master Vandar and Master Zhar (and maybe a few other notables) at the meeting where the Exile was removed from the Order? They were around at that time, and from that droid on Dantooine, you can see that Vandar has some praise and admiration in her, something Vrook didn't (and obviously never does). I think he (Vandar) wouldn't have been as quick to exile the Exile out of the Jedi Order. And I'm sure some other Jedi Masters that were around at that time would have seen something they (Vrook and company) didn't see and mde their objections a bit more vocal.

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in kotor1 zharr dies when your abour saul karaths ship,vandar dies if you the dark side and vrook was trying to make dantooine suitable for the jedi to return there.

Zhar doesn't die in K1. Vrook mentions in K2 that Zhar died later on Katarr.

But then, the point people constantly miss is that Exile's trial took place even BEFORE K1.

maybe for such a trail they only use masters that actually taught the person on trail..........but then vrook didn't teach the exile