Oblivion First Impressions

[metadigital]

As the PC gains one level, so all the other NPCs, making his gains irrelevant, meaning worthless. Let's turn to wikipedia:

Zero-sum describes a situation in which a participant's gain or loss is exactly balanced by the losses or gains of the other participant(s).

 

What i am saying is that in fact in the motivation rows, the "why should i care" rows, you could place a null value, since no change of the surrounding context would ocurr, meaning that for x+0 you can put 1, 2, 3, 10000 but the result will always be Zero, so you very well can put Zero and get on with your life. If everyone wins something everyone stays in the same relative position, with the problem that you have to fight hard and spend time and resources to do it, while the others gain it automatically. So while your character gains a level, you in fact lost resources and time while not getting a real benefit in relation to the other parts of the gameworld, just status quo.

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No.

 

Zero-sum

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[Hassat Hunter]

Just a word of warning metadigital, you are awefully close to the path of self-destruction that costed me my mod-ship...

 

And your sig doesn't work... not even with all add-blocks etc. turned off

 

On Oblivion-front: Haven't been able to play since last time

[Darque]

^ I knew you looked familiar.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

^ I knew you looked familiar. 

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Darque +1 perception

[metadigital]

Just a word of warning metadigital, you are awefully close to the path of self-destruction that costed me my mod-ship...

 

And your sig doesn't work... not even with all add-blocks etc. turned off

 

On Oblivion-front: Haven't been able to play since last time

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1. No, I am expressing a personal view in a calm and clear manner. But thanks for the thought!
   
2. Might be wiki: the site is down at the moment.
   
3. I can't understand why you continue to play the game, given your immense frustration with it. I am left to conclude that:
   • You like being frustrated;
     
   • You like moaning about being frustrated;
     
   • You aren't very bright.
     
     

Seriously, man, if the game bugs you so much, DON'T PLAY IT! Boot up KotOR, or Deus Ex or something else.

[Dhruin]

I'll refrain from editing your post; mainly because it demonstrates that you have no argument to make, and have resorted to name-calling.

1. I call it as I see it. Have you another explanation? Another way to express the issue? Go ahead: I am not closing the debate, I am just making my own personal observations. Rather than lowering the tone (much more than you are even accusing me of doing) by name-calling, why don't you come up with an argument? I will be the first to admit if it's right.
    
   
2. The poster attacked my spelling; I was acting in self-defence. (Go and look.) Or should I just sit and be a target?
   

But thanks for playing!

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Edit whatever you like - you're the one with the authority here - and I was simply calling it as I see it. I'll leave the "thanks for playing" quip out in return but that just confirmed my suspicion.

 

I see Briosafreak accusing you of poorly thought out arguments but nothing about spelling. I made my arguments earlier in the thread, so I'll leave you to it.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Just a word of warning metadigital, you are awefully close to the path of self-destruction that costed me my mod-ship...

 

And your sig doesn't work... not even with all add-blocks etc. turned off

 

On Oblivion-front: Haven't been able to play since last time

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

1. No, I am expressing a personal view in a calm and clear manner. But thanks for the thought!
    
   
2. Might be wiki: the site is down at the moment.
    
   
3. I can't understand why you continue to play the game, given your immense frustration with it. I am left to conclude that:
   • You like being frustrated;
     
   • You like moaning about being frustrated;
     
   • You aren't very bright.
     
     

Seriously, man, if the game bugs you so much, DON'T PLAY IT! Boot up KotOR, or Deus Ex or something else.

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See now while I would say you could make those sort of comments as a user and probably get away with it. I don't see it as a moderators role to make personal attacks on other members.

 

So wookie (er hassat) is wise in his words.

[Hassat Hunter]

[*]No, I am expressing a personal view in a calm and clear manner. But thanks for the thought!

[*]Might be wiki: the site is down at the moment.

[*]I can't understand why you continue to play the game, given your immense frustration with it. I am left to conclude that:

• You like being frustrated;
   
  
• You like moaning about being frustrated;
   
  
• You aren't very bright.
  
  

Seriously, man, if the game bugs you so much, DON'T PLAY IT! Boot up KotOR, or Deus Ex or something else.

 

1. Doesn't matter... As long as other posters think it up as hostile. The "I don't do/say X because you are a mod" stuff are some bad omens... "

2. Guess that could be it

3. Because it IS fun...

3.2 I like hunting bugs and than whine about it to the QA-squad; kind of a hobby

3.3 See 3.2

3.4 Probably also part of it, yes...

 

End of list comment reply; The bugs don't bug me... I love 'em. I also love bugging the people who should have kept that stuff out... Oblivion/SS is such a nice and easy target for this...

[Darque]

1. No, I am expressing a personal view in a calm and clear manner. But thanks for the thought!
   

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You're overlooking one thing... you're kind of a mod now, so there are some things you should and shouldn't do.. belittling people is bad when you're a mod as it reflects on the forums as a whole.

[metadigital]

Edit whatever you like - you're the one with the authority here - and I was simply calling it as I see it.  I'll leave the "thanks for playing" quip out in return but that just confirmed my suspicion.

 

I see Briosafreak accusing you of poorly thought out arguments but nothing about spelling.  I made my arguments earlier in the thread, so I'll leave you to it.

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Buddy, you didn't make any arguments. At all. You were very unkind and accused me of being a hybrid offspring of a male donkey and a female horse. Remember?

 

And Briosafreak did accuse me of poor syntax, but I don't expect your reading comprehension to be very high, considering your responses.

 

But, please, if you have something constructive to say on-topic, rather than taking pot-shots at me, do so.

 

Thanks again!

[Hassat Hunter]

Breakdown of a soon-to-be-follower

 

Buddy, you didn't make any arguments. At all. You were very unkind and accused me of being a hybrid offspring of a male donkey and a female horse. Remember?

 

Dispite how un-nice people are toward you, you have to be nice to them. Failure to do so result in complaints at the Green Dragon's Desk... Or so experience tells me

 

And Briosafreak did accuse me of poor syntax, but I don't expect your reading comprehension to be very high, considering your responses.

 

Stuff like this is "bye bye"

 

But, please, if you have something constructive to say on-topic, rather than taking pot-shots at me, do so.

 

Stuff like this is "bye bye"

 

Thanks again!

 

And now I agree with Nick and Llyranor (for this time) that after 83 pages a Part II may be welcomed...

 

Edit; sig returned...

Edited April 9, 2006 by Hassat Hunter

[metadigital]

1. No, I am expressing a personal view in a calm and clear manner. But thanks for the thought!
   

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You're overlooking one thing... you're kind of a mod now, so there are some things you should and shouldn't do.. belittling people is bad when you're a mod as it reflects on the forums as a whole.

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Wow, hang on here. Who did I belittle? I was being attacked, remember?

metadigital [...] why are you still replying with poorly thought short sentences? Don't you have some moderation to do, or go and buy the horses armour?

 

They were made just for the gamers like you, enjoy.

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I was simply responding in a defensive posture.

 

Secondly, just because I clean up the mess left by some of you, doesn't mean I can't participate in the conversation. I have been completely friendly and NONE of my posts contain any assaulting language or terms. (Except for the comment to the my furry friend, vide sub).

See now while I would say you could make those sort of comments as a user and probably get away with it. I don't see it as a moderators role to make personal attacks on other members.

 

So wookie (er hassat) is wise in his words.

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I see, so because you interpret my comments as an attack on the wookiee, they must be? Even though our rapport allows us to (SHOCK! ) make tongue-in-cheek remarks like that to each other.

 

You've convinced me!

[Darque]

It's funny because YOU're getting banned.

 

Or should I say..... Gabrielle.

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That isn't funny.

[Darque]

as for the mod discussion, I'm bowing out.

 

The Big Green doesn't like it, and this can only go badly at this point if it's left in the open.

[metadigital]

Very sensible. I am trying to prevent this topic from closing, but I don't hold much hope if people keep posting off-topic.

 

Last chance.

[Darque]

I'm going to assume you didn't mean that in a negative way....

 

As for the thread, you should close it anyway, it's over 1k, and that's probably not good for the forum software.

[Kaftan Barlast]

Then let me just add to to your tomes of trivial knowledge that I have yet again done my usual thing and realised halfway through the game that my build is completely off and that Ive had to resort to cheating to make it playable. ( changed my class with ShowClassMenu )

 

 

( Ill say as Mkreku, do not take persuasion as a class skill )

 

 

p.s

 

but its not my fault that Bethesda are completely incompetent at writing manuals. I shouldnt have to buy a strategy guide to be able to figure out what is useful and what isnt.

Edited April 10, 2006 by Kaftan Barlast

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Then let me just add to to your tomes of trivial knowledge that I have yet again done my usual thing and realised halfway through the game that my build is completely off and that Ive had to resort to cheating to make it playable.

 

 

( Ill say as Mkreku, do not take persuasion as a class skill )

 

 

p.s

 

but its not my fault that Bethesda are completely incompetent at writing manuals. I shouldnt have to buy a strategy guide to be able to figure out what is useful and what isnt.

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Whats the problem ?

 

Speechcraft ?

 

True.

[Hassat Hunter]

Atleast the manual is better than the ingame help

 

Long live forums...

[Fionavar]

Well that was fun ...