Diablo 3 rumours.

[Judge Hades]

Diablo 1 and Diablo 2 are in my top positions of worst games I have ever played.

[alanschu]

But that just means the majority of people are somehow inferior to us or something, right?

[Darque]

Actually a Diablo sequel set in a 3D gameworld doesn't sound that bad. But I'm more receptive to Hellgate: London which reportedly has Diablo-styled gameplay but has a more interesting setting.

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I'm looking forward to Hellgate: London.

[Haitoku]

In your opinion.  Don't forget it's one of the most successful PC games of all time, still actively played on battle.net.  So I'd say at least there's a good couple million people out there who'd disagree. 

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That doesn't mean it's an RPG.

[Dark Moth]

Actually a Diablo sequel set in a 3D gameworld doesn't sound that bad. But I'm more receptive to Hellgate: London which reportedly has Diablo-styled gameplay but has a more interesting setting.

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I'm looking forward to Hellgate: London.

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Same here. A first-person shooter RPG. *daydreams*

[Judge Hades]

Millions of people like Britney Spears. That doesn't mean they have good taste in music.

[Dark Moth]

Oh please, Britney Spears is a joke. Nobody takes her seriously anymore. Also, music and games are two different things, you can't really compare the two in some cases.

 

And for the record, it is an RPG. Deal with it.

Edited February 13, 2006 by Mothman

[Pidesco]

In your opinion.  Don't forget it's one of the most successful PC games of all time, still actively played on battle.net.  So I'd say at least there's a good couple million people out there who'd disagree. 

 

I think it's the simple mindlessness of the whole playing experience that sells the game. It's basic and easy to pick up while at first sight appearing to be deep and intelligent. The Da Vinci Code did much the same thing in book form.

[alanschu]

Millions of people like Britney Spears.  That doesn't mean they have good taste in music.

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How cliche.

 

Besides, taste is subjective. It's not like we're saying she's not really a singer.

[Diogo Ribeiro]

Same here.  A first-person shooter roguelike.  *daydreams*

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[Craigboy2]

I hated Diablow 1 and Diablow 2.

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Great use of play on words <_<

 

And btw, why are people so dang picky with games on this forum? It has items, levels, classes, experience, skills, stats, etc. It's an RPG. thumbsup.gif

 

Don't degrade the genre by calling Diablo an RPG.

 

Diablo is junk.

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But Fable's an RPG? How does that work?

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[Judge Hades]

Diablo caters to the idiot masses of the mainstream audience. So did Britney Spears. You may consider her a singer, but I consider her crap. You may consider Diablo a RPG, while I consider it crap. I rather play Might and Magic 9 than play a session of Diablo 1 and 2.

 

Fable is more a action/adventure game than a CRPG.

 

Yes, Diablo has stats, equipment, levels, blah blah blah. All the things that are found in CRPGs but there is something that Diablo lacks which a CRPG has. That is dialog that allows one to role play their character. I don't see any good dialog options in Diablo like there is in Fallout, KotOR, Planescape Torment, and the such. Character interaction, in more ways than just swing a sword, is needed to make a CRPG into a CRPG.

Edited February 13, 2006 by Judge Hades

[Diogo Ribeiro]

Blah blah blah. Some people like Diablo, some don't. Some call it an RPG, some don't. Some play it, some don't. Everybody wins either way

 

On a related note, just how much has the Diablo series sold over the years?

[Kaftan Barlast]

If the game offers no roleplaying, its not an RPG. Period. Just like how an FPS game where you couldnt shoot stuff wouldnt be an FPS game.

 

but publishers like easy, established labels so thats really of no consequence.

 

 

Millions of people like Britney Spears.  That doesn't mean they have good taste in music.

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Oh please, Britney Spears is a joke.  Nobody takes her seriously anymore.  Also, music and games are two different things, you can't really compare the two in some cases.

 

And for the record, it is an RPG.  Deal with it. 

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Its exacty the same things. Britney Spears extremely dumbed-down but catchy tunes appeal to people in the same eay that Diablos simplistic gameplay does. Face it, most people are dumb and completely lack taste, they will listen to whatever catches their fancy at the moment and play whatever game offer an hour worth of mindless timewasting.

 

 

I mean, just because people eat millions of hamburgers each week it doesnt mean theyre the crown of creation as far as food goes

[Darque]

Blah blah blah. Some people like Diablo, some don't. Some call it an RPG, some don't. Some play it, some don't. Everybody wins either way

 

On a related note, just how much has the Diablo series sold over the years?

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Lots

[Diogo Ribeiro]

I "heard" more than 13 million.

[Pidesco]

I "heard" more than 13 million.

 

At fifty bucks a piece?

[Diogo Ribeiro]

Well that's a different story, isn't it?

[Darque]

I "heard" more than 13 million.

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[Dark Moth]

*blah blah blah*  TROLL *blah blah blah*

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*yadda yadda yadda*  If you don't agree with me, you're a stupidhead!!

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Oh, spare us the attitude already. Just because people have different opinions from yours doesn't mean they're "dumb" or that yours is right. I could just as easily say KB's dumb because he likes cricket and croquet. But I don't, because people like different things, that doesn't make it right or wrong. Your whole "I'm right, if you don't agree you're dumb" attitude is utterly retarded and just makes you look like an idiot in the process.

Edited February 13, 2006 by Mothman

[Llyranor]

Wouldn't be surprised. WC3 itself sold 7+ million copies :ph34r:

[Pidesco]

This means that Blizzard has the money to do any game it wishes and instead keeps on pandering to the masses with simple and superficial games.

[Dark Moth]

That's kind of the point, I hope you know. They're a business, okay? They make games people will buy so they can make $$$. They're not going to make games to satisfy a small, select audience (a.k.a. YOU) if that's not what most people want. And if people keep buying it, then they must be doing something right. In my humble opinion though, WC3 was far from "simple". I think it's one of the most complex recent RTS's available out of sheer replayability alone.

Edited February 13, 2006 by Mothman

[alanschu]

Yes, Diablo has stats, equipment, levels, blah blah blah.  All the things that are found in CRPGs but there is something that Diablo lacks which a CRPG has.  That is dialog that allows one to role play their character.  I don't see any good dialog options in Diablo like there is in Fallout, KotOR, Planescape Torment, and the such.  Character interaction, in more ways than just swing a sword, is needed to make a CRPG into a CRPG.

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Then I guess many of those old gold box games you claimed to have played (and championed as being the good old days of RPG gaming) aren't RPGs either.

[alanschu]

If the game offers no roleplaying, its not an RPG. Period. Just like how an FPS game where you couldnt shoot stuff wouldnt be an FPS game.

 

but publishers like easy, established labels so thats really of no consequence.

 

 

Millions of people like Britney Spears.  That doesn't mean they have good taste in music.

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Oh please, Britney Spears is a joke.  Nobody takes her seriously anymore.  Also, music and games are two different things, you can't really compare the two in some cases.

 

And for the record, it is an RPG.  Deal with it. 

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Its exacty the same things. Britney Spears extremely dumbed-down but catchy tunes appeal to people in the same eay that Diablos simplistic gameplay does. Face it, most people are dumb and completely lack taste, they will listen to whatever catches their fancy at the moment and play whatever game offer an hour worth of mindless timewasting.

 

 

I mean, just because people eat millions of hamburgers each week it doesnt mean theyre the crown of creation as far as food goes

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No, it's not. I was never discussing whether or not the game was smart or difficult to play, but whether or not it's an RPG.

 

Most people are also what drive the market. We're the odd and unusual ones, not them.

Edited February 13, 2006 by alanschu