Deadly_Nightshade Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I rest my case. Please excuse me while I spam your RPG threads now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hm? oh you mean the rpg thread i started and now dont really use anymore? dont let me stop you <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok, then the two peole playing will have to move to another forum... Deadly_Nightshade "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Darkside teaches many things: manipulation pleasure through pain wicked offensive force powers control of others intimidation aggression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Zonos Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 and hate. can't forget hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Onivega Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 I rest my case. Please excuse me while I spam your RPG threads now. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hm? oh you mean the rpg thread i started and now dont really use anymore? dont let me stop you <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok, then the two peole playing will have to move to another forum... Deadly_Nightshade <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i was intending to stick to the 2nd jedi civil war rpg hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Zonos Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiGaijin Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 "... is the dark side stronger?" "No, quicker, easier, more seductive." While I usually disagree with the "wait and see" approach often taken by the Jedi Council, and can see the wisdom in studying both aspects of the Force, I'm a lightsider all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth revan22 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 the teachings of the sith lead to true strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Phantom Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Really quick: There is no "Grey Jedi Order"!!!!!! "Grey Jedi" are Jedi like Qui-Gon or Jolee (Sp? ). They use the Force, and may have, at one point, been Jedi or Sith. Even Bindo used the Light Side. Confront him as the Dark Lord Reborn, and combat will define his true character: He's a Jedi, and he'll never bow down to the Sith, so says he. They still serve a 'side'. "Apathy is death." Even the Grey Jedi robes say how 'Grey Jedi' opperate independently of the Jedi Council, which, by no means, signifies that they are both 'good' and 'evil'. After all, even Yoda, one of the most Light Side Jedi Masters I can think of, can use Force Lightning, should he choose to. It's not what powers you have, but how you use them, that determines your alignment. And, if you want to make the argument that "Grey Jedi" are neutral, then why did the Jedi Council, in almost every instance, choose NOT TO FIGHT, instead of fighting against 'evil' (Mandalorian Wars, etc.). Grey Jedi often choose to fight instead of thinking, which is why they are often considered not to be 'true Jedi', and why they many times use the Dark Side. The Jedi make mistakes. They try to be perfect, which is their greatest failing. The Sith's greatest failing is that they ditch all attempt at becomming "perfect", and give into their own ideals or delusions. If the Jedi would get over themselves, then maybe they'll survive for more than three movies/two books/one game. Like Jolee said, they should teach control over emotion/passion, not to deny it altogether. This separates them from the people they are supposed to protect, and the life that their "Force" is supposed to embody. The Sith: Well, the Sith are pretty good at doing what they want to do, so I suppose their teachings serve them fine as far as falling to the Dark Side, having your morals twisted into an incomprehensible lump, and killing mercilessly. Geekified Star Wars Geek Heart of the Force, Arm of the Force "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" -Obi-wan to Anakin (NOT advocating Grey-Jedidom) "The Force doesn't control people, Kreia controls people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Zonos Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Your statments are pretty good and well thought out but there are somthings that you left out. 1. Unlike the sith the jedi don't seek total domiantion of the force I.E: they seek the froce to by balenced not bathed in light as a reversal to the sith wishes 2. The path of darkness is a fast one but look at dooku, he was a great jedi and as a sith he was able to take on anikan and obi-wan at the same time and hold his own against yoda. but the moment that anikan even used a bit of rage he was killed. why is this? simple because the sith teaching can only take you so far. anikan was a strong jedi when he fight fought dooku even then he started to tap into his rage. but after 3 more years as a jedi then tapping his rage again he creamed him.meaning the jedi teachings can give you more wile the sith stops at a point, quickly i mite add 3.think back to episode 1 when obi-wan felt some anger then calmed himself, only then was he able to think clearly enough to use qui-gons saber, maul never saw it coming because he was blinded by darkness and finaly 4. force ghosts. when ever a sith becomes a force ghost they are weak and they can't leave phyical plane, they can ever be destoyed. wile the jedi way may take longer and his harder it is way more efefctive and gives a better result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Phantom Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Yep. I was not advocating the Sith. Or the Jedi. Although, in my book, the Jedi are a wee bit better... Giving into the Dark Side can only bring so much power... The person still determines exactly how much more powerful they get. Perhaps one of Kreia's many truths is that one must see both sides to appreciate the whole: Almost every 'redeemed' Jedi (Jedi that fell to the Dark Side and later returned to the LS) became very strong, wise, famous (and, in a few more scrupulous cases, I assume rich). Geekified Star Wars Geek Heart of the Force, Arm of the Force "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" -Obi-wan to Anakin (NOT advocating Grey-Jedidom) "The Force doesn't control people, Kreia controls people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Onivega Posted February 25, 2006 Author Share Posted February 25, 2006 Jedi dont want passion in their lives because it would be a distraction and/or lead to the dark side. But that is one of their greatest flaws. Jedi make their members into emotionless goody too-shoe puppets that want to reach a state of no distraction so they can see cleary. Passion can lead to lust, love, and anger which they say leads to the Dark side even though those emotions are human, so basiclly the Jedi think that begin human is total weakness hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Zonos Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 but im turn the emotions the jedi abandon help them find peace and with this peace comes strenth in the force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Phantom Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 The Jedi never explicitly say: "Emotion is bad." They just say to control them. Just because all the Jedi take this to mean "Emotion is bad" is their own fault. Geekified Star Wars Geek Heart of the Force, Arm of the Force "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" -Obi-wan to Anakin (NOT advocating Grey-Jedidom) "The Force doesn't control people, Kreia controls people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jabba Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Which teaching lead to power.... let me think... AH! Corporate Finance. (sorry ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Onivega Posted February 26, 2006 Author Share Posted February 26, 2006 corporate finance leads to self ruination, nixon learned that lesson well hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta Truth Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 which of the Sith and Jedi teachings will lead to true strength? Both teaching are very narrow minded , and it is this narrow mindedness that leads each other to destroy one another. The Sith do have cool powers , they basically have no honor,loyalty and you death can come pretty much at anytime. The jedi (the good ones) are thoughtful but there teaching of not having personal attachments, love etc. causes the problems to begin with . So even though I voted jedi they are far from perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Architect Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 which of the Sith and Jedi teachings will lead to true strength? Both teaching are very narrow minded , and it is this narrow mindedness that leads each other to destroy one another. The Sith do have cool powers , they basically have no honor,loyalty and you death can come pretty much at anytime. The jedi (the good ones) are thoughtful but there teaching of not having personal attachments, love etc. causes the problems to begin with . So even though I voted jedi they are far from perfect <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Great post Delta Truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Thingy Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Dark Side for the power hungry evil lunatics, like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 then I will kill all of the power hungry evil lunatics and take the Dark Throne from you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Phantom Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Like I said before, the Jedi try to be too perfect, the Sith ditch all attempt. Geekified Star Wars Geek Heart of the Force, Arm of the Force "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" -Obi-wan to Anakin (NOT advocating Grey-Jedidom) "The Force doesn't control people, Kreia controls people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtriniman Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 (edited) People have completely misread what the man asked: Which of the Sith and Jedi teachings will lead to true strength? It's not what you would choose. Just which one leads to a certain outcome. To answer, I'll quote Yuthara Ban: "How many sorts of victories can you imagine? Peaceful victory? Victory by sacrifice? A truce, an achievement? Unless the victory is achieved by demonstrating that your power is superior, it is only an illusion. Temporary at best. We seek more." "Conflict forces one to better oneself. It forces change, growth, adaptation... evolution... or death. These are not our laws, but the universe's. Without conflict you only have stagnation." Now ask yourself this? If you are always exercising will you not fare better at athletics than a couch potato? If you are constantly competing will you not do better than someone who has never tried? How will you know what you are capable of, your true potential unless you continously test yourself? The Sith teachings lead to true strength. Edited February 26, 2006 by dtriniman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Zonos Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 sith try to be perfect even more so than jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Phantom Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 From their own point of view, sure. Geekified Star Wars Geek Heart of the Force, Arm of the Force "Only a Sith deals in absolutes!" -Obi-wan to Anakin (NOT advocating Grey-Jedidom) "The Force doesn't control people, Kreia controls people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Zonos Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 everything is point of view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Lord Urais Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 how can you not love the dark side? please everyone follow the dark side. "once more the sith will rule the galaxy... and we shall have peace" darth sidious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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