Cantousent Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 If this is real, then I'm disappointed in you. What would possess you to put "snape killz dumbledor" in the title of your post. Bad form, Servant. Very bad form. I would suggest changing the title to include a spoiler warning. Just a suggestion, but this was particularly childish. I would have thought better of you. Perhaps you just weren't thinking about it. EDIT: Thanks, Servant. Sorry for being so harsh. Anyhow, I'm playing Dumbledor tomorrow night for the Henderson District Libraries Harry Potter party. I'm going to be quite sad if Snape really does end up being the bad guy. I was hoping he would find redemption. Oh well, Rowling's choice, I suppose. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Child of Flame Posted July 15, 2005 Author Posted July 15, 2005 If this is real, then I'm disappointed in you. What would possess you to put "snape killz dumbledor" in the title of your post. Bad form, Servant. Very bad form. I would suggest changing the title to include a spoiler warning. Just a suggestion, but this was particularly childish. I would have thought better of you. Perhaps you just weren't thinking about it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have no idea whether it's real or not. It could be a photoshopped image, it could be a photo/scanned image taken of one of those books that got sold before the street date out of NY. Title changed. I honestly didn't think about it.
Spif Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 FFS, SPOILER WARNING! I have been trying hard not to read ANY spoilers about Half-Blood Prince, and you just ruined that. Only 16 hours till I get the book and you just ruined my excitement.
Cantousent Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 Yeah, I edited my post. I thought to myself that maybe I was judging you too harshly. I can sometimes be the post first and ask questions later sort of guy. Fascinating, if it's true. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Child of Flame Posted July 15, 2005 Author Posted July 15, 2005 Yeah, I edited my post. I thought to myself that maybe I was judging you too harshly. I can sometimes be the post first and ask questions later sort of guy. Fascinating, if it's true. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually, if this is true, it could actually make me want to read this book, even though I haven't read any of the HP books since Goblet o' Fire due to lack of character development. Now Snape killing Dumbledore, that could not only lead to delicious darkness, but *gasp* character development. I'll be disappointed if this is faked, or even if the image is real, but it's one of those 'OMG CRAPPY PLOT TWIST IN THE FORM OF HIM THINKING SNAPE IS BAD AGAIN WHEN HE'S ACTUALLY GOOD!!!'
Cantousent Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 Well, the good thing about Snape was that he wasn't really a "good" guy as such. He's genuinely meanspirited and nasty in every single book. He might be fighting on the good side, but it was still a mystery. I've thought all along that it would be easy for JKR to go either way on Snape, so I'm going to be keenly interested. My wife and I read these books to each other. I've been trying to get her to read the Lord of the Rings Trilogy with me, but no dice. She liked the Hobbit, but LoR is too dark for her tastes. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Nartwak Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 It's too bad Rowling writes like a fourteen year old. Otherwise I could be marginally interested in this.
Azarkon Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 Well, she writes *for* fourteen year olds (actually younger, I'd say), so what do you expect? Personally, the HP books are entertaining in terms of plot, though I imagine they'd have been infinitely more enjoyable had I been going through that stage of life at the time of reading. At the very least, they have a large following among today's impatient kids, and given that this is written text against the might of cinematic eye candy and ADD-addled gaming, that's pretty damn impressive. There are doors
Cantousent Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 To comment on what Azarkon said, I think JKR has a talent for writing. What makes most folks dislike her is simply her success. Nothing brings out more ire than success. On the other hand, her writing is geared for the young adult audience, and so I can see why some folks just don't find her books all that interesting. To be honest, I don't read much young adult literature myself these days. My wife, partly because of her career, tends to enjoy young adult novels. The problem for me is that I don't read juvenile literature to find myself. That's not to say that I can't find insight in virtually any genre so much as it's not my goal. When I read Susan Cooper's The Dark is Rising series in Junior High School, I was defining my character. At this point, I've pretty much defined what I am, both good and bad. So, I read Harry Potter because it's fun and because it's something my wife and I can enjoy together. More to the point, however, is the effect the Harry Potter series has had on children. It's become cliched to cite youngsters engaging in and enjoying reading, but it remains true nonetheless. JKR has had a great influence on school age children. I suspect she's got a few twists in store, but I hope they all make sense in hindsight. Nothing without foreshadowing. I might not like this proposed outcome with Snape, but it is not unreasonable Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Blarghagh Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 Aren't we forgetting, though, that Harry accuses Snape of things he hasn't done as a rule?
thepixiesrock Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 I sent a link to a site that had this on it to a freind without telling him what it was and made him mad... Excellent. Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there.
Archmonarch Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 My guess, based on recurrent themes in HP books: someone is pretending to be Snape whether through mundane disguise or magic so as to once again cast blame upon him, thus ridding the good guys of their main source of information on the bad guys. And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had
Whitemithrandir Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 Who is Dumbledore? For that matter, who is snapez? Harry Potter sucks. Word economics To express my vast wisdom I speak in haiku's.
Archmonarch Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 White, to be frank, I agree. The writing is so immature that I am almost entirely convinced they have a team of professional writers to translate JK Rowling's scribbles into legible, understandable English. I read it simply to gain insight into why it is is popular, so that I may apply similar (though more advanced) principles to my own literary endeavors. So far, I fail to see anything remarkable about this series. And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had
><FISH'> Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 The dialogue is so very bad. I'll probably still read it and hope Rowling has realised her mistakes.
><FISH'> Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 Well, she writes *for* fourteen year olds (actually younger, I'd say), so what do you expect? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I find that offensive...Im 14 and i think HP sucks.
Cantousent Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 Actually, the writing is rather mature considering the readers are, at least in theory, children ranging from 12-16. The themes can be surprisingly adult. Unlike many authors, let alone young adult authors, JKR is willing to kill some characters and make other characters suffer real hardship. One of the things I hate about the earlier books in the series is the child abuse inflicted upon Harry by his aunt and uncle. I'm not even a huge Harry Potter fan. Don't get me wrong, I'd proudly make the claim, but I'm not. On the other hand, I'm more of a fan by being forced to address some of these claims about her. Still, the dialogue does suck. I don't mind Hagrid having an accent, but does it have to be so... over the top? Dammit. At any rate, some folks hate the Harry Potter series because it's popular, the enemy of elites everywhere. Some folks hate it because they expected something more adult than the series was ever meant to be. Finally, some folks hate it because they honestly don't like the writing. Still, the dialogue does suck. I don't mind Hagrid having an accent, but does it have to be so... over the top? Dammit. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Azarkon Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 Well, there is the factor of it being British. Certain subtleties, no doubt, are missed by us American audiences. Still, there is some degree of universal appeal to the books or else it would not have been such a phenomenon. Personally, I think it's Rowling's sense of character and world building. Yeah, her writing isn't stellar, but her world is immersive. While usually we think of the former precluding the latter, that is not necessarily the case when you're younger and/or less literary minded. For instance, I remember being immersed in Goosebumps books back when I was in early grade school and that was simply because I was more innocent and naive. There are doors
Darth Flatus Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 People actually do speak like Hagrid. Rowling is a middle of the road writer with an unimaginative narrative style. At times the intended commercialism seeps through into her wrting as it conveniently takes the form of a screenplay. Anything laudable about her writing is highly derivative without giving due credit to its roots.
><FISH'> Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 I live in a part of the uk where lots of people speak like hagrid. HP is good but the dialogue is just so ****ing repulsive. Plus the character harry is the most annoying, ignorant, hot headed, stupidest hero to ever feature in a book. And some of the insults harry and draco throw at eachother are so terrible and pathetic you just want to cry. And its amazing just how much value there is in friendship and love. I wanted to throw up when i saw that harry's mother's love is what saved him...i mean, thats just the biggest cliche thats ever been thought up..or atleast it is now. And why the effing hell is Harry so stupid? he falls for tricks even my 2 year old niece would'nt fall for. But im glad rowlings killing off characters now...makes it more interesting....And its so obvious that harry's going to become a teacher.....its hinted in every book (mostly the 5'th when he actually teaches a class) Other than that, Rowlings a good writer and she should keep up the good work P.S I dont think anyone believes that BS about her being struck by inspiration for HP whilst on a train.
jaguars4ever Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 It's too bad Rowling writes like a fourteen year old. Otherwise I could be marginally interested in this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What do you expect Nart, she's a hack. <_<
><FISH'> Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Im on to chapter 9..so far its looking great. Scratch all the **** i posted up there, i changed my mind because she is a great author and she seems to have rectified her mistakes.
thepixiesrock Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Im on to chapter 9..so far its looking great. Scratch all the **** i posted up there, i changed my mind because she is a great author and she seems to have rectified her mistakes. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If that isn't proof that the aliens have been secretly intigrating themselves into our society via taking controll of humans I don't know what is... Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there.
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