Revans Controntation With The True Sith...

[Bastilla_Skywalker]

Hello

 

I was just wondering.I read some where that Revan went to go and confront the true sith because he did somthing horrible in the past and he went to go and confront the true sith to fix up the problem because he wanted to fix up his past mistake. what is your opinion to why he went back to the outer rim?

 

share your opinions. just a discussion.....

[Aishur-Rim-Nisheshu]

I stand by my previous submission that Revan only knew of the "True Sith" after the events of KoTOR.

 

In KoTOR, Revan's brain was severely damaged and he was re-indoctrinated and reprogrammed to the point that throughout the entire game he had only flashbacks of his confrontation with Bastila, the starforge visions and the revelation scene. If Revan of the Old knew of the "True Sith" (I doubt it), chances are post KoTOR Revan would not have memories of them.

 

I think after the events of KoTOR, D/L S Revan started to question the acts of his former self as well as that of Malak and the rationale behind the Mandalorian War. Self-search, detective work and intelligence would have told him that there was the "True Sith" and in order to know more about them and their schemes he flet he had to go in person to find it out and perhaps to exorcise his own demons.

 

By the end of KoTOR, whether DS or LS, Revan's become quite a celebrity throughout the republic universe. For him to go off and be successful in his mission, he must do so secretively.

[Jivin]

I suppose I had just assumed that he remembered the information he had found at the academy at Malachor V and Korriban. It is said that the academy there and the academy on Korriban lay on the borders of the True Sith empire (although it may not have been said like that, and I didnt mean it literally), and that the information held in these places that Revan visited would lead one to the True Sith (and maybe even reveal that they seek to bring war on the jedi/republic again soon?).

 

So from my LSM game perspective he remembered such things and realised he had to go off to "fight them" or whatever.

 

- Dan

 

PS: I had also vaugely remember Kreia saying in the game that the information at Malachor V actually led Revan to Korriban... but I am quite sure I remember her also saying that collectively what Revan discovered was of the existance of the True Sith and perhaps (most likely) a means of reaching their empire in unexplored space. I had just sort of assumed most of this was at Malachor V, becuase it appears that after the events of KOTOR2 the Exile is ready to head off to fight the True Sith as well....

 

I also really dont see why Bioware coudlnt have included something on this after the "party" at the end of KOTOR1. It wouldnt have taken much of a cutscene to quickly cover Revan remembering the stuff or whatever and then leaving everyone behind to go off and do whatever with the True Sith. Then again I guess its really easy to say that in retrospect, but are we just to beleive that they didn't do that because at hte time of KOTOR1 they weren't planning on their being a sequel? (were the True Sith even mentioned at all in KOTOR1?)

[kalimeeri]

I think before he left Revan already knew that the true Sith were going to wage war on the known galaxy; he left strategic planets intact and gave certain leaders instructions (Canderous, Carth). He could not take anyone with him because, according to HK, one of the better ways to fight Jedi was to attack their friends.

 

As a Sith Lord he had probably gathered most of the information before Malak attacked him. It's possible that Malak did not agree with whatever he was planning after the war, and that was what provoked the attack--because Malak was ambitious and jealous. Once the war was over and Malak was dead, he kept searching and trying to remember.

 

I wonder if there was another Star Map or two--the Star Forge was not the end of the trail. I also wonder about Kreia's comment that Revan may have been born in the Unknown Regions. If he found proof of both in another ancient computer, knowing the threat that the true Sith presented, he might well take it as a personal battle that he alone should/could deal with.

[metadigital]

... I also really dont see why Bioware coudlnt have included something on this after the "party" at the end of KOTOR1.  It wouldnt have taken much of a cutscene to quickly cover Revan remembering the stuff or whatever and then leaving everyone behind to go off and do whatever with the True Sith.  Then again I guess its really easy to say that in retrospect, but are we just to beleive that they didn't do that because at hte time of KOTOR1 they weren't planning on their being a sequel? (were the True Sith even mentioned at all in KOTOR1?)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

IIRC there was no mention of the True Sith in K1.

 

I would say that at no stage of the development of K1 was a sequel determined; certainly Bioware weren't going to make it so they weren't too interested in adding costs to their build to add stuff that no-one could know was needed because the plot hadn't been worked out yet.

 

The whole "Revan has gone to the Outer Rim" device was used to remove the character from the first game totally from the universe, so that the sequel could use the same universe and not run into Revan (and all the mess that would ensue to describe Revan / physicality / motives / alignment / etc). Nothing more.

[Jivin]

... I also really dont see why Bioware coudlnt have included something on this after the "party" at the end of KOTOR1.  It wouldnt have taken much of a cutscene to quickly cover Revan remembering the stuff or whatever and then leaving everyone behind to go off and do whatever with the True Sith.  Then again I guess its really easy to say that in retrospect, but are we just to beleive that they didn't do that because at hte time of KOTOR1 they weren't planning on their being a sequel? (were the True Sith even mentioned at all in KOTOR1?)

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

IIRC there was no mention of the True Sith in K1.

 

I would say that at no stage of the development of K1 was a sequel determined; certainly Bioware weren't going to make it so they weren't too interested in adding costs to their build to add stuff that no-one could know was needed because the plot hadn't been worked out yet.

 

The whole "Revan has gone to the Outer Rim" device was used to remove the character from the first game totally from the universe, so that the sequel could use the same universe and not run into Revan (and all the mess that would ensue to describe Revan / physicality / motives / alignment / etc). Nothing more.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

 

As I had thought

 

Cheers,

- Dan

[kalimeeri]

The whole "Revan has gone to the Outer Rim" device was used to remove the character from the first game totally from the universe, so that the sequel could use the same universe and not run into Revan (and all the mess that would ensue to describe Revan / physicality / motives / alignment / etc). Nothing more.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

And quite neatly done, actually. I don't see it as a device to avoid dealing with those issues, though. Instead of creating a rip-off clone (which they very well could have), Obsidian made something different, yet relatively consistent. Revan was a great character, with a compelling story. Introducing another PC connected to that story was a smart move, cleverly done--while at the same time they respected Bioware enough not to trounce all over the myth. Just in case Bioware decided to continue.

[Jedi Master D Murda]

As I recall, I believe Revan knew about the "True Sith" before he was mindwiped. Remember that Revan did not wage war against the Republic simply out of conquest but he was trying to unify it and supposedly sacrificed himself to the DS to accomplish his task.

 

In K1 Candy tells Revan that it was the Sith, highly possible the "True Sith", gave the "offer" to the Mandalorians to attack the Republic. At the end of K2, LS, Carth tells you that Revan believed that something more was happening and that it was not the choice of the Mandalorians to attack the Republic.

 

Revan, post mindwipe, remembers why he waged war against the Republic and goes to try and stop the "True Sith", or at least delay them so that the Republic has time to heal. You have Mandalore gathering the clans for the army Revan needs, and Revan told him, LS, that he will return. Plus you have Goto doing what he can to help. And you have T3 and Kreia who find the Exile who ultimately destroys what he created, Sion and Nihilus.

 

In conclusion, I believe Revan knew of "True Sith" during the Mandalorian war. Like HK said: the Mandalorian War was to stop the Mandalorian but also to build Revan's new army to unify the Republic against the "True Sith".