So is it time?

[Saber Rider]

@ Cloris:

 

Well I haven't seen any porn that has anything artistic about it (and I'm old enough for that matter, 27 ), but as you've said it's a matter of opinion.

 

I think the entire violence and gore issue is just about as over rated as the nudity and vulgarity part. Just think of cartoons! They down-play the severity of violent actions alot more than most games do that are rated for adults, still parents have no problem letting their kids watch that kind of stuff.

 

As far as the rating system is concerned, in Germany, wehre I live right now, the rating system is even more useless than it is in the states. At least you have a description of the content. Over here there is only an age rating, and some games that are considered too violent are banned. But the real ridiculous part is that there is no sense behind that, for example Doom 3 is allowed while the Add-on for that game is not. Violence remains violence, no matter if you kill someone with a gun or a chainsaw (I didn't play it or want to play it, 'cause I don't like games like that). I guess I dislike rating systems because it kind of gives parents the impression, that if the cover says that it is fit for their kids they just accept it. If you as a parent take the time to wtach movies or play games with your children so you can see for yourself if the content is fit for them, then that's great, but in my experience most don't.

 

I think filters are a better way of controlling the content. Sure the rating system in the states is way better then ours and certainly should remain, but as I've mentioned filters are more democratic giving every user the choice to filter out unwanted content. I left out the violence in that consideration because there are almost no games that don't have violence of some kind (think of Super Mario Bros., shooting your enemies with fireballs is certainly violent ).

[Cloris]

I never before noticed the undertones... and they weren't even that subtle.  They all but say flat out she was using the droid to pleasure herself.  Not just by the lighthearted way they refer to it as her "personal droid" for "personal" needs ... but when you actually ask if it means "ALL" personal needs ... the droid responds "you don't want to know" ...

 

I thought of this chat string and began to laugh hysterically ... so yeah there are hidden undertones in the Star Wars games for anyone that doubted.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I thought that was incredibly funny! I almost dropped my controller laughing. Sure, we get the Twi'leck (?spelling) thing all the time, but in a story-verse of droids, well, I know that I had wondered... but I guess I'm just twisted that way.

 

Cloris

[Cloris]

@ Cloris:

 

Well I haven't seen any porn that has anything artistic about it (and I'm old enough for that matter, 27 ), but as you've said it's a matter of opinion.

 

I think the entire violence and gore issue is just about as over rated as the nudity and vulgarity part. Just think of cartoons! They down-play the severity of violent actions alot more than most games do that are rated for adults, still parents have no problem letting their kids watch that kind of stuff.

 

As far as the rating system is concerned, in Germany, wehre I live right now, the rating system is even more useless than it is in the states. At least you have a description of the content. Over here there is only an age rating, and some games that are considered too violent are banned. But the real ridiculous part is that there is no sense behind that, for example Doom 3 is allowed while the Add-on for that game is not. Violence remains violence, no matter if you kill someone with a gun or a chainsaw (I didn't play it or want to play it, 'cause I don't like games like that). I guess I dislike rating systems because it kind of gives parents the impression, that if the cover says that it is fit for their kids they just accept it. If you as a parent take the time to wtach movies or play games with your children so you can see for yourself if the content is fit for them, then that's great, but in my experience most don't.

 

I think filters are a better way of controlling the content. Sure the rating system in the states is way better then ours and certainly should remain, but as I've mentioned filters are more democratic giving every user the choice to filter out unwanted content. I left out the violence in that consideration because there are almost no games that don't  have violence of some kind (think of Super Mario Bros., shooting your enemies with fireballs is certainly violent  ).

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

I do think that the the violence and nudity agruments are simply a smokescreen for the struggle for social control. I think that's why it is so seemingly arbitrary. I'd write a longer post, but I agree with what I see here, and just can't think of much more to say than that.

 

Too awake too early in the morning to be more verbose,

 

Cloris

[Darth Abomination]

Okies, dont just dismiss me here right off the bat (there a meathod to my madness).

 

Back in the late 80s/early 90s some games would come out with a NR18 patch/expansion for games that basically added nudity to the games. Back then they didnt go over that well and the practice was stopped. Today however is not the late 80s/early 90s.

 

Now I must admit I didnt bother purchaseing these as it really didnt add anything to the games BUT...

 

Traveling over the web for last couple years it seems players (I have no clue of real age) are looking for more direct, less subtle content.

 

So my question is, is it time for computer companies to start adding adult content?

 

Im not talking about full on sex acts or stuff like that but pay for expansions/downloads that include acts/scenes/language that would push the game rating into the "restricted" catagory?

 

Even on these very boards you can find a thread about how the romance in KotOR2 was to subtle and not in your face enough that people didnt catch on to the meaning behind the acts.

 

IE: The force sharing between the Exile and Visas was basically a classy way of doing sex. But people so use to not being challenged in creative indoendo (sp?) that they didnt understand. I really think these people needed Exile and Visas to strip down and bump uglies to get the concept across to them.

 

But its not just KotOR2. In SWG there is a way to create nude female vendors, there is clothing that leaves very little to the imagination for female PCs to wear.

 

UO and Lineage games push the envolope in scanty garmets. Other games have actually included nudity in their released versions from the get go.

 

I dont actually think games should have nudity in them from the get go but has the concept and reality now hit that its the next logical step (much like the movie industry and how they use to handle onscreen sex in the 50s compared to what you see onscreen today).

 

Just something thats been banging around in my head the past while as I read boards and notice the gaming communities as a whole become less and less satisfied with creative abstracts rather then in your face everything.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

 

If you want nudity and sex and stuff play the PlayBoy Mansion you can make chicks topless and a big part of the game is having sex.