Laozi Posted February 14, 2005 Posted February 14, 2005 Hedvig And The Angry Inch? People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair.
Musopticon? Posted February 14, 2005 Posted February 14, 2005 Fion, I'm sorry for my unthought answer to this topic. Hopefu kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
kirottu Posted February 14, 2005 Posted February 14, 2005 what would we do without alcohol and in particular beer! beerbumbers! cheers. (w00t) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Beer is <_< Cider is This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
taks Posted February 14, 2005 Posted February 14, 2005 I'm not saying that its the alcohol's fault. But you can't say that if it didn't exist, there wouldn't be less incidents like that. Remove temptation and all. uh, no, removing alochol does not remove the human condition of addictive behavior. it is ingrained in our genetic construction. remove alcohol and we find another drug of choice. temptation cannot be removed, only transplanted. I'm saying if there was a way to completely eliminate it. there isn't. taks comrade taks... just because.
Ellester Posted February 14, 2005 Posted February 14, 2005 uh, no, removing alochol does not remove the human condition of addictive behavior. it is ingrained in our genetic construction. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I Life is like a clam. Years of filtering crap then some bastard cracks you open and scrapes you into its damned mouth, end of story. - Steven Erikson
TentamusDarkblade Posted February 14, 2005 Posted February 14, 2005 Taks and Ellester hit it on the head. People will always find something else. Nature abhors a vacuum. There is also the physchologyical aspect that folks will always find scapegoats. The Booze made me wreck my car, my allergy to pollen made me wreck my car, my radio made me wreck my car, my "compulsion to ram things that i'm getting therapy for" made me wreck my car...you get the picture. Our society is full of people who want to point fingers and shift blame. Our kids shoot each other because of violent games and sex on TV, not because i'm a failure as a parent. I've got a disease that makes me snort coke, it's not that i'm just weak willed and unwilling to help myself. etc etc etc...It's really depressing, but true. jesus, sorry about hopping on the soap box. Guess it bugs me more than i thought
mEtaLL1x Posted February 14, 2005 Posted February 14, 2005 It's irrelevant, Tantamus. What, are you denying the fact that most people when drunk act like absolute idiots? YOu can't argue that. I see it everytime my friends or my dad get drunk. What, are you implying that you can drive your car properly when dead-drunk??? And it's not alcohol's fault first hand, it's just a tool. Of course it's fault of the one who drinks too much. So, there ain't no scapegoats here.
TentamusDarkblade Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 What are you arguing here? Where did i imply that i could drive while drunk? Calm down. Breathe. Then post when you start making sense. I think most people are idiots and alcohol just gives them an excuse to act that way. Alcohol lowers inhibitions, muting that little voice in your head telling you that mooning a cop car is a bad idea. But it's the alcohol sure as hell didn't put that thought in their head to begin with, it just quieted the voice that might have counselled against it. Might have counselled. Are you saying that your friends and dad would never do anything idiotic sober and that alcohol makes them act that way against their will? The very first post Oerwinde says alcohol causes all these bad things to happen, that's scapegoating. Saying that these bad things wouldn't happend if alcohol ws eliminated, that's scapegoating. Now, think things through then post and we'll see if this conversation can go someplace constructive.
Arkan Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 What are you arguing here? Where did i imply that i could drive while drunk? Calm down. Breathe. Then post when you start making sense. I think most people are idiots and alcohol just gives them an excuse to act that way. Alcohol lowers inhibitions, muting that little voice in your head telling you that mooning a cop car is a bad idea. But it's the alcohol sure as hell didn't put that thought in their head to begin with, it just quieted the voice that might have counselled against it. Might have counselled. Are you saying that your friends and dad would never do anything idiotic sober and that alcohol makes them act that way against their will? The very first post Oerwinde says alcohol causes all these bad things to happen, that's scapegoating. Saying that these bad things wouldn't happend if alcohol ws eliminated, that's scapegoating. Now, think things through then post and we'll see if this conversation can go someplace constructive. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Alcohols ill effects are more than just lowered inhibitions. It also slows down reaction time, making people not only think they can drive while drunk, but it also inhibits their ability to do so. That's what causes most of the drunk driving accidents. And people don't blame alcohol for drunk driving accidents. The beer companies aren't thrown in prison, the drunk drivers are. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Laozi Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 what would we do without alcohol and in particular beer! beerbumbers! cheers. (w00t) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Beer is <_< Cider is <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cider? My girlfriend won't even touch that crap, thats worse then drinking winecoolers People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair.
Fionavar Posted February 15, 2005 Posted February 15, 2005 Well and with that ever so productive post, we'll assign this thread to the history books of threads that got DERAILED FLoSD.ObE The universe is change; your life is what our thoughts make it - Marcus Aurelius (161)
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