ampulator00 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 (P.s to all Darksiders using Wisdom... it lowers the potency and attack of Force Storm ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Really? Where's the proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maia Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Did Cha in KOTOR also determine how difficult our Force Powers would be to resist against? Didn't know that, I thought only Wis had that effect... Anyway, 30 points altogether to distribute, right?: female LS Consular/Jedi Master: Single saber, duelling feats to max Str 10 Dex 12 Con 10 Int 14 Wis 16 Cha 14 I may yet pump Cha to 15 instead of Dex, but I don't know. Skills: Persuade and Awarness, perhaps later also Treat Injury (assuming that the game is diificult enough to warrant it). PS: having read more carefully, Int 12 is indeed useless, as I murkily remembered. You got to have 14 for an extra skill point (a bit steep if you ask me). Well, well. I'd say +1 to hit +1 AC is more useful than a an extra +1 to whatever Cha affects this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC83 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 sounds cool. I really like your build, it looks really powerful. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who are you refering to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator00 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Did Cha in KOTOR also determine how difficult our Force Powers would be to resist against? Didn't know that, I thought only Wis had that effect... Anyway, 30 points altogether to distribute, right?: LS Consular: Single saber, duelling feats to max Str 10 Dex 14 Con 10 Int 12 Wis 16 Cha 14 I may yet pump Cha to 16 instead of Dex, but I don't know. Skills: Persuade and Awarness, perhaps later also Treat Injury (assuming that the game is diificult enough to warrant it). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Charisma was important for force powers, but IMO, wisdom had more usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maia Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Charisma was important for force powers, but IMO, wisdom had more usage. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, the character guide Dark Consular referred me to has this to say about Cha: "CHA - CHA affects the persuade skill, and modifies all the same Force Powers that WIS does. It also affects FP gain (though I don't think it should). It's a good idea to split points a bit between WIS and CHA." I don't remember seeing anything like that in the manual. I always thought that Cha affected FPs, but Wis affected whether our powers are resisted by targets and how we resisted hostile Force Powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Consular Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 Don't ask me, I just say what I read... As far as the powerful build I'm referring to Jad'en's build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightcleaver Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I'll seriously have to kill something if they neutered the INT stat again in KotORII. Lots of Dark Jedi, yeah... (Uh oh, I'm already falling to the darkside...) Anyway... the reason they did that in the first one wasn't because D20 said so. It was because the only thing INT gave you was skills. In KotOR II that's not true - it also helps with dialogue and such, which is about what most games are like with INT. Also, Int-based skills are going to be more important, and having lots of skill points will really add to the experience more than it did in the first one. It's horrible if they used the same neutered INT stat in the sequel, but it's still possible... The main difference between wisdom and charisma is that Wisdom gives you more Force Points. Taking a cue from KotOR I, this is a lot more important early on in the game than it is later. In the first game, if you had high wisdom and item/lightside master bonus, you were the Duracell bunny of Force powers. Charisma was different in that it gave bonus to, "Force-related feats and powers" but didn't give you any Force points. Something interesting I noticed about the screenshot somewhat gave of the manual (it MAY have been forged, although that's extremely unlikely...) is that Charisma has changed a bit. Like so: "... persuasive talker. It also reduces the penalty when using Force Powers of an opposing alignment (a light side character with a high Charisma can use dark side powers with less of a penalty), and a high Charisma also improves your companions' chance to hit." Make of that what you will. Anyway, on to what I'm going to do... Str 12 Dex 16 Con 8 Int 12 Wis 14 Cha 14 That's my lightside sentinel, male. I always ignore CON in preferrence of the other stats. It's the one that's not at all interesting to me. If INT requires more to give a bonus to skills, I might bring Con up to ten, or take out of strength and put into Int. Maybe I'll lower Wisdom... hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Jedi Guardian - Jedi Master Single Lightsaber - silver, blue, or green all of the forms I can use Strength: 12 Dexterity: 16 Constitution: 14 Intelligence: 10 Wisdom: 12 Charisma: 12 I find it to be a pretty balanced jedi, and since chris said that the skills will play a bigger role in the conversations i added a couple to intelligence. any suggestions. (oh and I plan on using the obi wan face too, unless if there is something cooler) :D Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anakins revenge Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 jedi consular: jedi weapons master either orange or turqoise or silversinge lightsaber: form11 form111 and formVI and form VII attributes will depend on what type of fighter i want to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Strength: 14Dexterity: 18 Constitution: 14 Intelligence: 12 Wisdom: 8 Charisma: 12 Jedi Guardian - Sith Lord Red Single Lightsaber Form 2 Darkside Master (P.s to all Darksiders using Wisdom... it lowers the potency and attack of Force Storm ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The only problem I have with this is the low wisdom, it looks really powerful but I'm not sure how great it'll be when it comes to the force, then again I suck at building characters! :D Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planar Jedi Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Jedi Consular Jedi Master STR 8 DEX 14 INT 14 CON 8 WIS 15 or 14(depends on level cap) CHA 14 I know i am missing some points, but i don't know much things about the skills There is hope beyond hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Consular Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 Thats's exactly why he is a guardian. They don't need to rely on the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Jedi Consular Jedi MasterSTR 8 DEX 14 INT 14 CON 8 WIS 15 or 14(depends on level cap) CHA 14 I know i am missing some points, but i don't know much things about the skills <{POST_SNAPBACK}> IGN has confirmed there is no level cap! :D Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Consular Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 How often do you gain attributes per level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Thats's exactly why he is a guardian. They don't need to rely on the force. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes but he is also a sith lord I think that he should get the full potential of his fighting ability with the maurader or focus a bit more on his force ability and stick with the lord! Just an opinion :D Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 How often do you gain attributes per level? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Every 4 or 5 i believe! :D Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Consular Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planar Jedi Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 What is the good point? There is hope beyond hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Consular Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 I'm sorry, people post so fast, I can not keep up. The good point was in response to "Yes but he is also a sith lord I think that he should get the full potential of his fighting ability with the maurader or focus a bit more on his force ability and stick with the lord! Just an opinion" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 What is the good point? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think dark consular is referring to the post about ja den's character? :D and thanks i try! :D Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fallen Jedi Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 LS Male Guardian - Watchman Dunno bout the attributes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maia Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Don't think that they are going to change much with Int - after all they have the same amount of skills. So, Int under 14 probably won't provide any extra points/level again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastilaShan Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Whats diffrence between Jedi Master, Jedi Weapons Master & Jedi Watchmen ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista_me Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Whats diffrence between Jedi Master, Jedi Weapons Master & Jedi Watchmen ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> JEdi master is supposed to gain force points back quicker think yoda, weapons master is all around destroyo man think mace windu, and watchman is a balace between the two thnk obi wan kenobi. Where is the bell, wait for the bell, k i need the bell, wait the bell! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Ding bonda dong! Kazic wants you.... to join the pinkside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Consular Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 Jedi Master-Like Consular Jedi Weapons Master-Like Guardian Jedi Weapons Master-Like sentinel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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