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Ukraine Conflict - Continues


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3 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

Also what difference does it make if the Ukrainians have lost more people  than they are open about, why would that change anything? They the ones fighting against an invasion

Well, catch them in a lie.  Not that if they're being invaded matters there, it's a data point and, in theory, truth matters. 

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1 hour ago, Malcador said:

Well, catch them in a lie.  Not that if they're being invaded matters there, it's a data point and, in theory, truth matters. 

well the point is that you don't want your enemy to know those data either, thats why they are confidential during war. I mean I am all for open government but I can see why at this point its not reasonable to expect such imformation to be shared. Its not like it contains 'truth' about biological weapons facittilies in Ukraine or some such nonsense

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1 hour ago, pmp10 said:

Macron is trying to set up peace talks with the help of China.
Doesn't even want to wait for autumn, very likely all done behind the back of US.

At this rate that facade of western-unity won't last much longer.

Ofcourse he would, he's French, surrendering is all those ****ers are good for

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/Ron Pearlman voice: War, war never ends... (badly misquoted)

 

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