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[Malcador]

I don't see making sure someone understands how to operate, maintain a firearm and things like being aware of the laws around its use as arbitrary.  Wouldn't help in this case as you can't train out stupid, but would help ensure you have quality gun owners.  Based off the ones I see on Youtube there's a fair amount of chaff to cut

 

[Guard Dog]

You guys know I’ve pointed this out before but if people were serious about ending gun ownership in America at least on the scale that it currently exists it would be very easy to do. In fact you could probably do it within three generations. Do two things:

1) Stop trying to ban it. It puts peoples backs up and makes everything in the NRA propaganda true. Every time the word gun control comes up the NRA gets 100 new members. If you want to put out that fire take away the fuel. Tell the gun control tyrants to STFU. 
 

2) Stop glorifying firearms. They are in the video games. They’re in the movies. Walk into any Walmart and they’ll be at least 100 different toy guns on the shelf. Change the culture. That will dampen the appeal.
 

People in rural areas are ALWAYS going to have firearms. They are a part of life. The average family in the suburbs does not have to protect livestock from predatory animals. People will still want a firearm for self defense. Mainly in the home. But the numbers will begin to diminish and the number of firearms people like that purchase will begin to go down.

The third amendment of the United States Constitution prohibits the government from quartering soldiers in People’s homes. This has not happened since the revolutionary war. The third amendment solves a problem no one has. The second amendment can go the same way of the third if people begin to lose interest in firearms. That’s how you get rid of guns in the United States. or at the very least seriously reduce the numbers of people who have them.

[Bartimaeus]

5 minutes ago, Malcador said:

I don't see making sure someone understands how to operate, maintain a firearm and things like being aware of the laws around its use as arbitrary.  Wouldn't help in this case as you can't train out stupid, but would help ensure you have quality gun owners.  Based off the ones I see on Youtube there's a fair amount of chaff to cut

 

Drivers licenses could honestly use a similar mechanism. It's just so tough to meaningfully implement it in a way that people will ever respond to in a responsible/positive manner (especially in the growing idiotocracy that is the U.S.) as opposed to just seeing it as a series of hoops they have to pass so they can continue being idiots every other day but the one they're being trained not to. It's easy enough to train a monkey...but in this case, you're trusting that the monkey will remain consistent to their training without any kind of supervision for years at a time and hoping that they won't deliberately decide to get themselves bit and go completely rabid in the interim.

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19 minutes ago, Malcador said:

I don't see making sure someone understands how to operate, maintain a firearm and things like being aware of the laws around its use as arbitrary.  Wouldn't help in this case as you can't train out stupid, but would help ensure you have quality gun owners.  Based off the ones I see on Youtube there's a fair amount of chaff to cut

 

If my years of college have taught me anything, it's that the dumbest mother****ers in the world could pass a test and retain no knowledge at all.

The big problem with gun control in the US is who would enforce it. Given the last year plus some, I trust them less than I trust the Nigerian prince who would email my parents with offers of millions in cash back when I was a young'un.

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