February 25, 20196 yr Hello, When I use Shadowing beyond + backstab + Flame of Devotion FoD (edit), there is no +100 % in the list of effects. Not the case for smoke veil for the information. "invisible" allow clearly this bonus if you are under 2 meters. (Target : ogre pirate = clearly under 2 meters) Like you see : I have the bonus of assassinate but not the backstab bonus (and it is clearly the same trigger = stealth or invisible) So, I think it is a bug. Edited February 26, 20196 yr by theBalthazar
February 25, 20196 yr Weird - worked totally fine last time I used it with an Assassin. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
February 25, 20196 yr Author I created again a Bleak walker + Assassin in a different game. Same result. No trace of backstab. Save for tests : https://ufile.io/cldq9 Protocol : 1) Shadowing beyond. 2) Use FoD on the ogre pirate. Normally no +100 % damage of the backstab. I have tried with other abilities than FoD, the bonus is HERE and WORKS ... So my conclusion : I think there is a problem with Flame of Devotion + Shadowing beyond + Backstab. I don't know why. FoD + Natural Stealth = BACKSTAB FoD + Smoke Veil = BACKSTAB FoD + Shadowing beyond = NOTHING Confounding Blind + Natural Stealth = BACKSTAB Confounding Blind + Smoke Veil = BACKSTAB Confounding Blind + Shadowing beyond = BACKSTAB Edited February 25, 20196 yr by theBalthazar
February 25, 20196 yr Nice testing. I wonder what causes this... Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
February 25, 20196 yr it's extremely weird that assassinate applies but not backstab. invisibility is weird and can reveal internal implementation details based on how an ability is structured (my go-to example is pillar of faith where initial hit gets assassinate but the follow-up prone does not), but i would expect assassinate to apply if and only if a backstab applies. the one thing i can think of is that assassinate applies to everything whereas backstab only applies to martial hits. Maybe FoD (or shared flames specifically) isn't classified as a martial weapon attack? either way, good find for an odd bug.
February 26, 20196 yr Hey Balthazar! Thank you for the detailed explanation of this issue with Backstab. I put all this information into a report and sent it to the Systems Design team. If you discover this occurring in other circumstances, please continue to post about it as I have linked this thread to the report to be used as a reference for the team during their investigation. Thanks gain for the help!
March 11, 20196 yr I just tried a Bleak Walker Assassin with a arquebus myself and can confirm that either Shadowing Beyond or arquebus is the problem. Most likely SB. It's RTwP mode. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
May 19, 20196 yr I encountered the same issue, and did some testing. Shadowing Beyond and Enduring Shadows are bugged. You won't get Sneak Attack and Backstab bonuses when using Arquebus weapon type - the only ranged weapon i tested, so possibly others are affected as well. However, Great Swords work just fine with those abilities - i don't know about other melee weapons.
May 21, 20196 yr 47 minutes ago, Boeroer said: Not fixed with 5.0? Nope. I was forced to implement additional condition scripts to make it work stable in our CP. Edited May 21, 20196 yr by Phenomenum Pillars of Eternity 1 - Russian Extended Localization Pillars of Eternity 2 - Deadfire Russian Localization Fix Pillars of Eternity 2 - Deadfire Community Patch
May 21, 20196 yr Author Grrr... Obsidian... Thanks for the others. This mod. will be mine. You have all my support.
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