So Concelhaut is a Lich....but what IS a Lich in Eora?

[Stardusk78]

Is it a type of vessel? is it a type of D&D lich? something else entirely? does anyone know?

[Androoh]

Yeah, seems like It's a type of vessel from my understanding.

Vessel in PoE might as well be interchangeable with 'undead' pretty much. Though iirc, the term can also refer to constructs - such as animats.

Necromancy is a field of magical study within Eora's 'arcane' fields of study too, which looks to have been Concelhaut's specialism.

Concelhaut even uses a phylactery which is something lich's use to sustain their immortality in DnD settings like the Forgotten Realms.

So yeah, mega powerful undead wizard... 

Edited August 16, 2018 by Androoh

[Stardusk78]

Yeah, seems like It's a type of vessel from my understanding.

 

Vessel in PoE might as well be interchangeable with 'undead' pretty much.

 

Necromancy is a field of magical study within Eora's 'arcane' fields of study too, which looks to have been Concelhaut's specialism.

 

Concelhaut even uses a phylactery which is something lich's use to sustain their immortality in DnD settings like the Forgotten Realms.

 

So yeah, mega powerful undead wizard... 

But vessels have a very specific set of properties in Eora...such as the need to feed on living soul essence.

[bugarup]

Well, Concelhaut as Watcher's pet skull seems to sustain himself on candied nuts, shark soup and booze, so mayhaps living soul essence is more a guideline rather than rule. 

 

Also, here's hoping we meet and turn him into pet skull again in PoE3. 

[Androoh]

Well they're not run-of-the-mill type vessel's from my understanding. They're not like fampyrs or guls in needing to feed on soul essence.

Edited August 16, 2018 by Androoh

[gkathellar]

 

Yeah, seems like It's a type of vessel from my understanding.

 

Vessel in PoE might as well be interchangeable with 'undead' pretty much.

 

Necromancy is a field of magical study within Eora's 'arcane' fields of study too, which looks to have been Concelhaut's specialism.

 

Concelhaut even uses a phylactery which is something lich's use to sustain their immortality in DnD settings like the Forgotten Realms.

 

So yeah, mega powerful undead wizard... 

But vessels have a very specific set of properties in Eora...such as the need to feed on living soul essence.

 

 

A vessel is a soul that has been artificially tethered to a body, whether that body is its own (most undead), something else's (Wichts), or an artificial one (animats, constructs). Very few Vessels are permanent, which makes "become a vessel" a mediocre choice for most immortality-seekers. Most undead lose soul essence at a regular pace and need regular infusions of it to survive (read: eating living or recently-living things), and while constructs are comparatively stable and may last years at a time, they will eventually break down. Animats endure longer by force of sheer fanatical devotion, but that's hard to plan for.

 

A lich gets around the problem through magic and surgery. First, they carve a bunch of arcane runes and symbols into their own skull, effectively binding their soul to their physical body with a network of complex spells. Then, they drill a hole in their skull, which they plug with a chunk of adra. The phylactery is, as Concelhaut clarifies in the first game, actually the skull itself. The process of becoming a lich (lichification?) seems to stop their soul from leaking altogether, but the resulting at the cost of their vanity: a lich's body will gradually become cold, dead, and emaciated.

 

(Sources: PoE1 bestiary entries for constructs, animats, liches, and guls.)

[Stardusk78]

 

 

Yeah, seems like It's a type of vessel from my understanding.

 

Vessel in PoE might as well be interchangeable with 'undead' pretty much.

 

Necromancy is a field of magical study within Eora's 'arcane' fields of study too, which looks to have been Concelhaut's specialism.

 

Concelhaut even uses a phylactery which is something lich's use to sustain their immortality in DnD settings like the Forgotten Realms.

 

So yeah, mega powerful undead wizard... 

But vessels have a very specific set of properties in Eora...such as the need to feed on living soul essence.

 

 

A vessel is a soul that has been artificially tethered to a body, whether that body is its own (most undead), something else's (Wichts), or an artificial one (animats, constructs). Very few Vessels are permanent, which makes "become a vessel" a mediocre choice for most immortality-seekers. Most undead lose soul essence at a regular pace and need regular infusions of it to survive (read: eating living or recently-living things), and while constructs are comparatively stable and may last years at a time, they will eventually break down. Animats endure longer by force of sheer fanatical devotion, but that's hard to plan for.

 

A lich gets around the problem through magic and surgery. First, they carve a bunch of arcane runes and symbols into their own skull, effectively binding their soul to their physical body with a network of complex spells. Then, they drill a hole in their skull, which they plug with a chunk of adra. The phylactery is, as Concelhaut clarifies in the first game, actually the skull itself. The process of becoming a lich (lichification?) seems to stop their soul from leaking altogether, but the resulting at the cost of their vanity: a lich's body will gradually become cold, dead, and emaciated.

 

(Sources: PoE1 bestiary entries for constructs, animats, liches, and guls.)

 

Thanks

[InsaneCommander]

Well, Concelhaut as Watcher's pet skull seems to sustain himself on candied nuts, shark soup and booze, so mayhaps living soul essence is more a guideline rather than rule. 

 

Also, here's hoping we meet and turn him into pet skull again in PoE3. 

 

I wish there was a clever dialogue option involving Concelhaut when talking with the circle of archmagi. Something like: "btw guys, look who wants to say hello, my pet Concy!"

 

Perhaps in the dlc...

[Rheios]

 

Well, Concelhaut as Watcher's pet skull seems to sustain himself on candied nuts, shark soup and booze, so mayhaps living soul essence is more a guideline rather than rule. 

 

Also, here's hoping we meet and turn him into pet skull again in PoE3. 

 

I wish there was a clever dialogue option involving Concelhaut when talking with the circle of archmagi. Something like: "btw guys, look who wants to say hello, my pet Concy!"

 

Perhaps in the dlc...

 

Man trotting him around like a show dog to display your superiority is going to make him comically livid. Even more than normal.

[InsaneCommander]

Man trotting him around like a show dog to display your superiority is going to make him comically livid. Even more than normal.

 

Well, he better behave or I'll put him to sleep inside a cannon.

[Taevyr]

 

Man trotting him around like a show dog to display your superiority is going to make him comically livid. Even more than normal.

 

Well, he better behave or I'll put him to sleep inside a cannon.

 

 

If he refuses to listen, you can always mount him on your ship as a lantern, or use him as a chewtoy in the menagerie. Though he may start conspiring with Nemnok then....

 

Or add a handle and use him as a mace called "Concelhaut's crushing doom: now with extra Concelhaut".

[InsaneCommander]

If he refuses to listen, you can always mount him on your ship as a lantern, or use him as a chewtoy in the menagerie. Though he may start conspiring with Nemnok then....

 

Or add a handle and use him as a mace called "Concelhaut's crushing doom: now with extra Concelhaut".

 

I prefer to keep him away from my pets because of that line he says about the previous ones.

 

But the mace is a great idea, Obsidian should include it in the game.