Reveilled

You can build only in the centres that you start with. For you, StP, Mos, War, and Sev.

Nobody expects the Spanish ninja monkeys ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Their chief weapon is to kill stuff, to kill stuff and flip out, to flip out and kill stuff. Their two weapons are to flip out and to kill stuff, and...

Alas, poor Aishur! I knew him, Horatio. If everyone sent in Build lists really quickly, we could have this turn all wrapped up by tonight. Oh, by the way, you are discouraged from negotiation during the winter turn. Technically, there shouldn't be any diplomacy between fall moves and builds, but given the constraints of postal play, it can't really be helped.

Everyone check your inboxes or the first post. Be sure to inform me if anything is wrong, but I think I did it all fine.

Aaaaaaand...done. Ah, good, that went well. All moves in on time. I'll get the adjudication done ASAP.

With just under 2 and a half hours left, one person still hasn't submitted moves. Said person had better get them in pronto.

Just under 24 hours until the deadline. Anyone who hasn't yet submitted moves should get their asses around to it, and if anyone wants to change any moves they've already sent me, be sure to do it before the deadline. Apologies if I've been pretty absent from the forums the past few days. I've been rather absorbed in some books.

Not if you're a hero. If you're a regular person, yes, maybe, but just as the character in a book is not in danger of death if the author doesn't plan on killing him, the PCs aren't in actual danger of death if the story doesn't warrant it. But it's not avoiding the issue of what the rules say, because the D&D rules aren't designed to be played without DM intervention. They're designed on the assumption that the DM will want to make changes or ignore the rules, and are so structured that they can be changed or ignored with little problems. The fact that the DM can intervene when the rules aren't going to cover what he wishes to happen isn't a fault of the system, it's the point of the system. You were the one that brought up that you 'had' to use d20 to play a certain game, not me. If enough people dislike d20 not to use it, that won't happen. If people decide that they quite like the d20 system, and find it adequate to their needs, then I see nothing so wrong with it.

Then don't. What are you complaining about? If you don't like it, then don't buy it. I don't have a problem with it. I assumed you were talking about low-level characters in your example, since you mentioned that they died. And according to the rules, four level 15 characters probably wouldn't get any experience for killing 1000 standard orcs, because it would most likely consume very little of their resources due to the fact that 1000 standard orcs probably wouldn't be able to hit them on anything other than a 20. Actually, it potentially could if the optional rule regarding instant kills was being used, as could it if it was a story related death, so the DM could just declare Boromir dead. Besides, I think this is all neither here nor there, as I cannot remember the last time any of my players met Boromir in our D&D game. If you don't want to play d20, you don't have to. If you want to play Star Wars RPG, can't you use the old system? If you want to play new Cthulhu adventures, can't you just sit down and convert them back to the old system, as I do when I convert all my 1e D&D modules to d20? If you want to play D&D, can't you play another edition of it? In fact just about the only d20 game I can think of that doesn't have a non-d20 version would be d20 Modern. The last time I went into my local RPG shop, there were plenty of non-d20 systems and books on the racks.

I find one of the most fun ways to play the game is to have a tiny map with every civ on it. With every civ about 2 spaces apart from another, everybody is at war almost constantly.

Woah...that tune brings back memories.

They are extreme examples, but the fact that rules support them lead to general trouble when playing, since it puts the players in hack-n-slash mode. No, they might not slay every child and helpless bystander, but if they see an umber hulk, they will attack. Why? Because it's worth xp. See a troll? Attack. See a wolf? Attack. Now, if the troll was actually an NPC I wanted to the players to meet and interact with, then I'll have to interfere with their role-playing options, since they'll already have gone into kill-mode by the time they see it. If they discover the troll some distance away and see it coming toward them, then chances are they'll toss arrows and fireballs first and worry about questions later... or never. Sure, they might have impaled my plot, but they won't know that, and should still get their xps, since trolls are dangerous. And my only means of control is to rail-road them into submission by giving out information that they really shouldn't have. Heck, I've even see PCs killed by their ambitions when hordes of orcs were swarming them, yet they remained blindly confident that their four PCs could take on an army of 1000 orcs simply because they had knowledge of the rules (i.e., "orcs are puny and cannot harm us") and had XP-signs in their eyes. Now, that's just bad role-playing. That will happen in any event, but I certainly don't need the rules to support that. I want rules where I can safely argue, without having players contradicting me and pointing to pages in the book, that they can kill just as many or as few orcs as they like, because I really won't care one whit by the time I give out XP. In fact, I might penalize them for monster-slashing on the basis that it's bad role-playing. D20 rules don't support that idea. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No! This is not the problem of the rules. This is a problem with your players. If your players kill everything in sight, that's their fault. And if you can't see a way to get your players not to kill everyone in sight, that's your fault. If your players are too stupid to realise that 1000 orcs would kill them, that's no one's fault but theirs. And if you want those sort of rules, then either tell you rplayers that you're changing the rules with regards to experience, and they can like it or lump it, or play a different system. But let me ask you this: If you don't like d20, why the hell do you play it? There are, as you said, plenty of other systems.

I cant believe you just posted that if i had to have respect for any singers at all it would be all the girls in all saints...they're my favorite...oh and Destiny's Child :D (yes i like Destiny's Child, so sue me!) lol DC has had its share of lawsuits. im glad kelly and michelle arent letting beyonce do all the singing now. michelle is by far the best looking and a good singer <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And you have the gall to criticise me?

Sure I can overrule the rules as a GM. But if I do that, the players will argue the rules, and I can't say I blame them, since they're just following the only basis they have to fall back on. Besides, if I'm to ignore d20 rules every two seconds, then why bother buying them in the first place? And if these examples demonstrate flawed rules in d20, then doesn't that indicate poor design by the writers? That would also beg the question of why I should spend money on it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, these are examples of exeptions to rules. If your players are going around killing children and beggars, there's something wrong with your players, not the rules. Falling down a mountain implies a fall of greater than one thousand feet, while the rules for falling in d20 only cover falls of up to about 200 feet, and even then not onto impaling rocks. This would seem to imply that this is a situation that requires DM adjudication.

I don't see the problem. The D20 rules are designed so that they can be easily changed. If you think your wizard should be able to have innuendo as a class skill, get your DMs permission and make it a class skill. And in the case of the character falling down a mountain and is impaled on sharp rocks, the DM says "Your character is impaled on sharp rocks. He's dead" and then he's dead, period. And in the case of the characters killing little girls and beggars, the DM says "You're not getting experience for that" and they don't, period. In any case, given the relative abilities of the beggar and the character, it is likely they wouldn't get experience from it anyway. I don't love D20, but I don't see why it's worse than any other system.

It is true that when the country was first created, there were restrictions on freedom based on your sex and colour, but you can't wish for the moon, or in this case, black and female emancipation, given the cultural mores of the time. I'm not saying people in the USA have no freedoms, just that the American people now feel that freedom has to be tempered with stability (restrictions on gays, for instance), or with financial equality (income tax during peacetime, which took a constitutional amendment to become legal). And it included such clauses as allowing the FBI to look at your records for any reason, as long as it wasn't because of something you'd said. You don't even have to be a suspect in an investigation. There were many positive clauses in the Patriot act. But the problem was that many bad clauses were sneaked in along with it. If the patriot act had included only things such as allowing better correspondence between the intelligence agencies, there'd be no problem. That's the problem. It strikes down laws that violate the rights enshrined to us in the Constitution. But what about our other rights? It's not right for the supreme court to operate that way. It should strike down any law which goes beyond the scope of the rights granted to the government, whether it violates the rights we have mentioned in the Constitution or not. Do we have to argue about this, though? Do you really believe we can change each others minds to make this worthwhile, especially when it has little to do with the thread?

What I never understood about Street Fighter was that Cammy was supposed to be Guile's daughter, yet she was British while he was American. Was Cammy the result of a chance meeting between an American serviceman and a Blackpool Prostitute? "

Back when it was born, and for many years afterward, the United States was a shining beacon of freedom across the planet that inspired people to fight for freedom in their own countries, and gave them hope that they could be liberated from the opressive reigime they lived under. It is disheartening to me to see the USA turn away from this heritage, and begin to see Freedom as something that has to be limited, either for the sake of stability or the sake of financial equality. I hope that some time in the near future, Americans will look back at what the Founding Fathers intended for their great country and try to return the United States to being the Land of the Free. I hope that I will be one of those Americans, even if I'm not one by birth. The constitution was a historic document, that set concrete limits on what a government could do in defence of its citizens. It is my wish that the government of the United States would return to protecting those freedoms guaranteed in the constitution, and leave everything else alone. Where others see the Constitution as a document that says "The Federal Government must do this", I see it as a document that says "The Federal Government must do this, and only this." But whatever misgivings I have for the present situation of American politics and government, the United States of America is still one of the greatest naitons in the world today. Happy Birthday, USA, and may you have many more.

And turning threads into zombies isn't? "

Okay, I'm afraid you've just lost the nine year old me. What might seem like a good idea to me now would only draw a blank stare from him. "

There was no ordinary water. I would have drunk ordinary water, if I could have, but there was only cholera-infested tap water or soda water, and I'm not sure which I'd hate drinking more.

Yep I have chrono trigger and chrono cross. Good games. Never even heard of Nights: Into Dreams though should check it out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It was a game on the Sega Saturn, which probably goes a long way to explaining why you haven't heard of it.

Okay. "The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge".

NiGHTS: Into Dreams is the best game ever. Fer shure. The only non-platform game I ever completed perfectly. I loved it. Mind you, Chrono Trigger and Uncharted Waters 2 were damn good games too. All so completely different that it's hard to compare them and decide on the better one.

But Sprite is Satan's drink! Why would you drink it? In my childhood, I was stranded in Lanzarote with no uncarbonated drinking water or Diet Coke for two weeks. The only drink available was Sprite. Given the intense heat, I had to drink at least three pints of Sprite a day just to replenish water lost to sweat (which is a lot for a nine year old). In those two weeks, I drank more Sprite than I have drunk in the rest of my entire life. To this day, I hate no drink more than Sprite. The worst part of it is that I don't dislike it enough to choose alcohol over it, such that if I ever again ended up in a place with only Sprite or Booze, I'd have to suffer the Sprite again. I'd literally have the choice between death and Sprite. I swear, it's a form of torture, and that's what makes it the drink of Satan.