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Spain threatened to close the border with Gibraltar, I've seen some sources say they threatened to retake it, but I doubt that. France threatened to let migrants cross the channel unopposed.
Do you have any sources that countries have done such thing as official declaration, and not just some politician speaking poppy****. Like for example there are Russian politician that tell every year how Russia will reclaim Finland, but that is quite far from Russia itself threatening to reclaim Finland.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0W50PN
The Gibraltar one seems to be a few speculatory statement by the Spanish foreign minister taken as fact by several publications
Good link but its just rhetoric, why would the UK allow that? If they do leave the EU the UK in fact would be more forceful and committed to stopping illegal immigrants. The UK is a small country and it could manage entry points effectively
It isn't rhetorical threat, but quite real thing that France can do if they want. It is what Russia did for Finland from December to February, they just let immigrant pass their border control and then these immigrant seek asylum from UK and because of what was agreed on 1951 Refugee Convention UK has to take them in and process their petition for asylum. Of course UK can denounce it but such action probably would cause them quite lot problems in UN.
You right about how I used the word rhetoric, I should have said " its rhetorical in the sense it wont impact the UK like France is suggesting "
Not that France would do this but lets say France carried through with that threat and disbanded all the refugee camps near the English Channel and stopped policing there side and said to all the immigrants " there is UK we wont stop you " all that will mean is the UK will be finally able to implement proper border control.....there will be less refugees in the UK as the UK allows a certain percentage of refugees into the UK only because they have to due to there EU responsibility
Currently UK can't say no for refugees that cross their border and seek asylum. It is what UK has agreed on when they signed UN's articles about refugee rights. Meaning that if France don't stop people that seek to go in UK to get asylum then UK don't actually can do anything else than take them process if they actually fulfill requirements to be refugee and if not sent them back to their home country if some other country don't take them. This scenario of course assumes that UK don't break their international agreements.
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Spain threatened to close the border with Gibraltar, I've seen some sources say they threatened to retake it, but I doubt that. France threatened to let migrants cross the channel unopposed.
Do you have any sources that countries have done such thing as official declaration, and not just some politician speaking poppy****. Like for example there are Russian politician that tell every year how Russia will reclaim Finland, but that is quite far from Russia itself threatening to reclaim Finland.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0W50PN
The Gibraltar one seems to be a few speculatory statement by the Spanish foreign minister taken as fact by several publications
Good link but its just rhetoric, why would the UK allow that? If they do leave the EU the UK in fact would be more forceful and committed to stopping illegal immigrants. The UK is a small country and it could manage entry points effectively
It isn't rhetorical threat, but quite real thing that France can do if they want. It is what Russia did for Finland from December to February, they just let immigrant pass their border control and then these immigrant seek asylum from UK and because of what was agreed on 1951 Refugee Convention UK has to take them in and process their petition for asylum. Of course UK can denounce it but such action probably would cause them quite lot problems in UN.
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Spain threatened to close the border with Gibraltar, I've seen some sources say they threatened to retake it, but I doubt that. France threatened to let migrants cross the channel unopposed.
Do you have any sources that countries have done such thing as official declaration, and not just some politician speaking poppy****. Like for example there are Russian politician that tell every year how Russia will reclaim Finland, but that is quite far from Russia itself threatening to reclaim Finland.
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Britain/UK managed to survive just fine (thanks to slavery lol) pre EU. It'll manage post EU just fine 9after a few bumps). I mean, if Isreal can surive if not outright flourish being sorrounding by a ton of enemies.. saurely Britian has nothing to fear right... unless the rest of EU plans to bomb them? then again, knowing how evil and nazish the EU (led by Germany lol) is.. I could see the EU doing everything they can to destory Britian. There's alreayd been threats of ways they can cripple Britain because that is how EVIL the EU and its supporters are. they relish it. They plan for the total destruction of Britain so they can use it as an example to any other country that is thinking of leaving. In fact, for its surival, EU would NEED to destroy Britain.
Thgat is why the pro EU contingent is pushing so ahrd... because they know they would have to go all out in the economic/.social or even outright physical war with Britian... just like the US gov't had to do when the South wanted to leave.
Only way they leave is in bodybags. PERIOD.
This must be one of the most inaccurate posts you have ever made?
You trolling I assume
Lets keep it simple....is there one thing in this post that is true?
Well, several EU nations have threatened retaliation if the UK leaves. Likely because if they leave they won't be the last.
Which countries have given such threats?
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The current Dalai Lama was friends with SA and later SS and NSDAP member
Brad PittHeinrich Harrer who got stuck in Tibet after successfully breaking out of an English internment camp in 1944. 7 years in Tibet and all.
Yeah you are right he is technically nazi and he even lived in Tibet two years after current Dalai Lama become Dalai Lama. Clear proof that Dalai Lama is nazi sympathizer, my bad.
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Dalai Lama weighs in on the refugee crisis: https://web.archive.org/web/20160531155702/http://www.ibtimes.com/refugee-crisis-europe-2016-dalai-lama-says-there-are-too-many-asylum-seekers-eu-2376054
"Europe, Germany in particular, cannot become an Arab country, Germany is Germany," he added.
*yawn* another pointless "we need to open our hearts and our borders"-diatribe, WAIT WHAT?
He can't very well rail against mass han chinese migration to Tibet changing the identity of the region, then think its ok elsewhere. Plus he was good friends with various nazis and other nationalists.
Current Dalai Lama was ten when WWII ended and was not recognized as Dalai Lama until 1950. And his predecessor died in 1933 without any remarkable connections to nazis that I can find, but as rebel leader of occupied country I can see him having connections to nationalists addition to CIA giving him millions to start guerrilla operations against China. But now Dalai Lama is changed man
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whats problem with low growth of economy, it feels natural
It is burden of our debt based economies, where countries have taken debt in hopes to grow their economies, and if those economies don't grow fast enough those debts start to eat from country's capital and people start to be able to buy less and less stuff with money they have (because inflation lowers value of money constantly), as growth goes to pay things that were bought in the past (in some cases countries take new debt faster than their economies grow, which will eventually create situation where country don't have funds to run itself).
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Overall, I don't understand why getting out of the EU's regulations and freeing business up would negatively affect the economy.
Because those EU regulations are actually there to lower amount of bureaucracy and free the business.
They make rule and laws to be similar in every member state and they tell how money, products, taxes, services, and people can move from one members state to another. They are there to make it possible that if you can do business in one member state you can do it also in another with as little as possible paper work.
And because those regulations has cut so much of that red tape that there was it has created possibilities for behavior that some member states feel to be abuse of the system which has lead to creation of regulations that are meant to prevent member states and business to do those things which has lead to situation where some member states feel that EU's regulations prevent them doing what they want to do.
And then to answer itself
Getting out from EU don't remove any regulations, although it gives illusion for country that they have more freedom to decide what those regulations are, but as those regulations are almost wholly about international things, which means that getting out from EU only means that those things need to be renegotiated and how much country has say so what goes in those negotiations depends quite lot how independent their economy is. And you don't free business by denouncing international trade agreements, but instead it will put your business in more difficult position as they need to adjust themselves to red tape that comes to move goods, services, money, and people over borders. Of course rich countries like UK are most likely are able to make quite good two way agreements with EU member states and general agreements with whole EU, but even their business most likely will get more red tape added to all their operations in EU.
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Youth mobs drive teachers from Australia town
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-36376221
Carjackings, children armed with axes and machetes and teachers airlifted out for their own safety are not the kind of scenes witnessed in most Australian towns. But in the Aboriginal community of Aurukun, in Queensland's remote Cape York, they have become familiar of late says journalist Kathy Marks.
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Teachers were evacuated from the community after the first carjacking and had only returned at the beginning of the week. After Wednesday's attack, the state government evacuated them again and have closed the school until July.
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'Handful of troublemakers'
But what frustrates locals even more is the apparent failure of government to provide adequate security for teachers and what they see as a softly-softly approach by Aurukun police. Footage circulated earlier this month showed officers standing by during a public brawl....
The latest wave began a fortnight ago, when youths allegedly tried to break into two teachers' homes, threatened the principal, Scott Fatnova, with an axe and stole his car. Twenty-five teachers were evacuated, but most returned last week. Then last weekend, despite the presence of extra police and security guards, Mr Fatnova was threatened and carjacked, this time by youths wielding knives and machetes.
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But I would like to discuss Finland as you have good insights. What is the Finnish economy based on...is it banking, services, tourism? Do you know percentage figures based on GDP? I know I can google this myself but I am more interested in the personal views of an actual Finnish citizen
Finland's GDP is bit over 200 billion euros, Finland product export is about 56 billion euro's worth, from which chemical industry products are about 18.8%, forest industry products about 21.5%, metal industry products about 14.7%, machine products about 21%, electric products about 12% and other products about 12%. When you add services (tourism, banking etc.) then value of exported things rises to about 78 billion euros, which is about 37.9% of GDP. Finland imports stuff about 38.7% of its GDP. (This are 2014 numbers, euro amounts have grown bit from mentioned, but I don't have last years industry percentages so 2014 has to be enough
)Lots of Finland's GDP comes from circulating money inside of Finland (aka running our socialistic economy)
Big junk of chemical products consist from exporting biofuel.
Metal industry has lots of smaller companies that produce all sort of things.
Machine products consist from luxury cruisers, elevators, paper machines, forest work machines.
Electric products are also lots of smaller companies producing all sort of things.
But after fall of Nokia's mobile phone business there has not be one sector that clearly dominates Finland's economy.
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I am bit of disagreement with previous arguments about Finland's membership in EU
Citizens of Finland don't need visas in any of the EU countries and because of two way deals that Finland has with those countries they would not need them even if Finland leaves EU. Only thing that would change in this front would be that citizens of Finland would need to carry passport instead of just identification card, but most people carry passports anyway (And this is only in theory as there isn't border checks in EU so people can travel fairly free from country to country even without identification).
EU regulations don't force Finland to do anything it don't want to do. Those regulations are always approved by our government and they don't come in force before our Parliament has made them as law. People can sue Finland to EU courts if they feel that our laws are against EU directives, but even EU court decisions don't force our government do anything they are just reprimands that Finland has not done what was commonly agreed on. You can see from this refugee crisis how powerless EU is against member countries that willfully decide not to follow what was decided.
Currently Finland suffers from phenomenon where hedge funds use EU's treaties to move money out form Finland to countries with lower taxation like for example Luxembourg. So currently EU membership helps hedge funds to withdraw money from Finland's economy in way that they would not be able to do if Finland wasn't member state.
Finland is relatively rich country that actually can support its own currency, even though separating from euro would cost Finland billions of euros because of bureaucratic issues, productions cost of new money, difficulties in trade with euro countries, making Finland more vulnerable to market swings, etc. issues. It would not cause Finland's economy to drop in third world levels. Currently Finland suffers effects of strong currency and our government is trying to compensate it with by lowering salaries, benefits, etc. things that would be solved by weaker currency (of course weaker currency brings other problems which is why I am stated previously in this board that I support Finland's membership in euro)
Finland's credit rating will not drop much regardless of what idiotic things and how much our government try to get it to drop get their agenda pushed through, because Finland's pension funds and other investment funds that have their capital outside of Finland have multiple times more money in them than Finland has debt. So Finland's problem isn't that it can't pay it current debts but that amount of debts are rising alarmingly fast, which means that Finland needs find way to cut out its need to import things or increase value of things that it exports.
But there are other economical benefits from EU that in my opinion are so high that Finland should not leave EU, although EU's constant undermining of trade with Russia hurts Finland's economy more than our politician are willing to admit. So fixing relationships with Russia should get more importance in EU than it is currently getting (although negotiations with Russia are usually done in backrooms and not in public eye, but still current state of cold hostility isn't beneficial).
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I have mixed feelings. I see what they are trying to show, but all I also see is people with artifical limbs- and shouldn't that be a good thing or something? After all, they don't show *why* the people have these limbs. So they might as well be victims of bombings or whatever... you get the point. The trailer is failing in delivering "the why", imo.
Focus on trailer seems to be in dehumanization of those who have augments, which I think is them trying to justifying their story line that augmented people are separated from rest of human kind in beginning of the game. And in the game they will then try to give them back their humanity. Although I don't think they actually succeeded that well in their trailer, but that seems to be for me what they tried to achieve.
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I'm surprised Hillary hasn't had him suicided yet: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEM_2016_SANDERS_INTERVIEW?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-05-23-19-05-51
Are you assuming that she is that competent?
Also, are there no more debates before June the 7th btw?
I don't think that democrats' establishment see any point to organize one as Clinton only needs 77 delegates to win and there is still over 100 super delegates left to give "their" voice who will be the democratic candidate.
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Trump is interesting candidate for GOP as his proposed policies and public statements about things are actually quite opposite to what members of Tea Party preach. And I find it also bit amusing that what he says is many ways very close to what Sanders says, although his proposed measures are quite different. And Clinton is closest of those three when it comes to preserve classical "American way of life"
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Gods are beings or entities that people believe to be gods. It don't matter where they come as long as people believe that they are gods.
Like for example part of Christianity is to believe that a man (Jesus Christ) was conceived by God (the Father Almighty) touching a girl as spirit (Holy Spirit) and that man is therefore son of God (the Father Almighty). And when this said man died it is believed that he did go to hell and then rose from the death and walked among his followers and then ascended to heaven, where he sits on right side of God (the Father Almighty) as his son and where he judges living and dead. And Christians worship these three entities as gods, but there is only one God in the Christianity (Trinity/Holy Trinity).
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
Maker of heaven and earth.And in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended into hell.
On the third day He rose again from the dead.
He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty.
From thence He will come to judge the living and the dead.I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Christian Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.(Lutheran version of Apostles' Creed)
Lutherans believe in the Triune God and reject other interpretations regarding the nature of God.
(Article I of Augsburg Confession, titled as God)
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I really cannot decide which is more disgusting to me. The Democrats cynical and power-mad attempt to use the government to silence free speech, or the death threats and nasitness it provoked. It's like trying to find the cleanest pig in the sty.
Was there something else than trying to get similar disclaimers than in TV to political ads in internet in those things that they wanted to re-examine?
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No such thing as an American accent, though.
Is there such thing as Canadian accent? One would think that people from Nova Scotia have different accent than people from British Columbia. There is quite many native accents and dialects in Finnish and people don't even live thousands kilometers apart of each other and have mostly common ancestry (meaning that most of the people's ancestry goes back thousands of years of mainly 'Finnish' speaking people, with some Germanic (Swedish or German) and Russian influence here and there).
Or is Canadian accent some sort metropolitan accent born from mixture of multiple accents in big cities, like so called London dialect.
Purely off topic, but only thing of interest for me in past couple pages
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So, there shouldn't be any rights issues for White Wolf/Paradox to greenlight a VtM game, correct?
Not anymore as Paradox bought license to make World of Darkness computer games back from CPP Games last year.
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I'm confused about the Bloodlines license. Is it now with Paradox/White Wolf, or does Activision still retain it?
White Wolf owns trademarks for Vampire Bloodlines and Vampire the Masquerade in EU and USA. And White Wolf owns copyrights to most materials to Vampire the Masquerade table top game. Paradox owns White Wolf. Activision probably still has right/license to sell Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines game.
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This happened in Sweden recently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgLy-8kDlT0
What a nation of brave people and standup guards and policemen. The guy filming it even told the robbers that it is time to go, they've been there long enough
That looks like filming of some tv series, film, etc., especially the end where people suddenly appear and jog after robbers and then stop after couple steps and start to celebrate.
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I don't know as I don't know what problems you are referring to.
As I said to Bruce. Just some problems about a couple of things. Nothing really.
So you were purely trolling?
As you can make general statements like "What the hell is happening in [any country in world]? I've just been reading up on this country. :blink:" "there is massive problems in [previously mentioned country]" - "Oh, so the problems in [that same previously mentioned country] are small problems?" And generally speak the truth but those statements just don't bring anything in the conversation, or even start real conversation as there is nothing that others can actually refer or give any real input. It seem to me that you for some reason wanted to shade Sweden and not to say anything of interest.
Sorry that I took you bait.
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There is problems everywhere. But I don't know anything that would me ask "What the hell is happening in Sweden?", I have lots of relatives in Sweden so I am actually really interested to know what you mean with your remark about massive problems.
Oh, so the problems in Sweden are small problems?
I don't know as I don't know what problems you are referring to.
Last night there was massive problem in Sweden as Australia nearly won Eurovision, is that the massive problem that you are referring to?
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There is problems everywhere. But I don't know anything that would me ask "What the hell is happening in Sweden?", I have lots of relatives in Sweden so I am actually really interested to know what you mean with your remark about massive problems.
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What kind massive problems? There seem not to be anything new or immediate that I know that earns usage of "What the hell is happening in Sweden?"
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Getting out from EU don't remove any regulations, although it gives illusion for country that they have more freedom to decide what those regulations are, but as those regulations are almost wholly about international things, which means that getting out from EU only means that those things need to be renegotiated and how much country has say so what goes in those negotiations depends quite lot how independent their economy is. And you don't free business by denouncing international trade agreements, but instead it will put your business in more difficult position as they need to adjust themselves to red tape that comes to move goods, services, money, and people over borders. 
Should the UK leave the EU?
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EU is collective democratic regime (meaning collection of independent democratic countries that have decided by themselves and freely to participate in bigger democratic institution to achieve common goals) where lots of decision making process is obscured by bureaucracy and complex power structure. And things are made worse by countries government using confusion caused by EU's complexity and distance from general public as scapegoat for unpopular decision that they themselves haven been part of making.
Of course collective democratic regime can be seen that individual country is losing its power to decide about things by themselves because there are things where they need to come in agreement with wider community. But in other hand leaving such collective regime don't mean that you don't need to come in agreements with other countries anymore. But of course if country and its population has fundamental disagreement about where things should go than rest of the countries in said collective regime then leaving that regime is probably best for their own interests.