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Wouldn't you know that this is the topic from which I finally garner a developer's attention?? Oh, the humanity.... *blush* Seriously, how do I stop the thing from automatically summoning? Is there someplace in the options? (Yes, I'm going to go look right now, but y'all know how competent *I* am to figure this stuff out... )

Oh. My. God. Just when I thought I could not look more stupid... I created this character last March and yes, had to choose a familiar as part of the Wizard component of my EK. But never once did I ever summon that familiar, and it certainly didn't summon automatically. I went back to my original save of that NWN2 game... and for the first time, summoned my familiar. It was... *turns beet red*... Flopsy the rabbit. No portrait of Flopsy, mind you, but there he was, quietly sitting beside my foot. I guess I thought Kaji was doing it because every time it appeared, it appeared directly under Kaji no matter where Kaji was. If there isn't a way to disable the automatic summoning of familiars, I'll try cheat-code deleting the Summon Familiar feat. Dear God I feel so idiotic. *wanders away to hide and suck thumb*

Flopsy takes up a portrait spot, which limits the numbers of battle creatures I can summon. Now it just annoys me because it is there, nobody believes that it is there, and I cannot get rid of the danged thing. ******************** Cantousent: I give up. I've changed all of Kaji's Behaviors so that he can't even cast spells; then I manually unsummoned the rabit using the right-click menu command "unsummon". I then centered the camera on Kaji and waited. Within a minute there was a poof of smoke from the ground beneath Kaji, a bright yellow character circle appeared with Flopsy in the middle of it. No text. Nothing. I cannot get rid of this thing, and it's not funny anymore. I'm going to scrap this entire game and start another one. If that damned rabbit shows up again, I'm scraping MOTB altogether. I did NOT create this animal, and I feel ridiculous being the only person on the planet who has seen it. But I can guarantee that somebody put this thing in the code, and as you well know, I'm not even technically competent to upload a jpg without help, so it sure as heck wasn't me. I thank you so very much for all of your patience and assistance today. It was much appreciated, dispite the fact that I have repeatedly ended up displaying my technical incompetence in front of God and everyone and feel like an utter idiot. Not the first time, I might add, but it's never a fun experience!

Nah, I don't have much luck getting a developer's attention. Last time I PM'd a developer he never even opened the message. I'm probably too short. Besides, I might be able to solve the problem by putting him back on puppet mode and not allowing him to utilize his abilities. Plus I don't know who "Rob" is. *blush* You PM him for me, okay? He'll read a PM from you! Just the luck of the draw, and who was close enough to either Gann or Kaelyn to take advantage of their buffs. I'm not buffed there either. Flopsy wanders around quite a bit. Er, pretty much yes to all. Flopsy has been with us off and on... mostly on... since the Burrow. Yes, he can die and be injured in battle. (No, I have never tried to heal the little bugger). He appears to unsummon every 24 game hours (more or less... I've never actually timed it), at which time Kaji will eventually resummon him. He "dies" like any other summoned creature, his portrait disappears and he no longer exists. Until resummoned. By Kaji. He only affects the amount of summons my party can conjure by being present, not by being gone... if that makes any sense. And yes, Kaji summons him with only my PC and Safiya in the party, as well as in front of those who have since joined.

I SAW Kaji summon it... repeatedly. No text that I recall, just Kaji flailing his scaley hands, visual "poof", and Flopsy appears. Every time the rabbit dies or unsummons, Kaji summons it again. I was just trying to find my way out of the burrows. I had used no cheats at that point at all. I very well may have changed his behavior to use his abilities and taken him off of puppet mode, because I routinely do that with all my followers. I will check these areas and see if the rabbit eventually disappears. I am not making this up. I would not make an utter fool of myself both on this board and the BioWare board for a silly prank. I honestly thought the dumb rabbit was part of the game, but it's a part I don't like because during one battle when I was summoning like crazy, as soon as the side portraits filled up, all my summons failed. But there was the damned rabbit. At least I was able to prove its existance with a screen shot. Oh, and my character is a half-elf Ranger/Eldrich Knight/Paladin mix, if it matters. She does not have the ability to summon rabbits. Thanks again for helping with the screenshot.

OMG!!! I think I got it to work. Behold. FLOPSY!!! Thanks, everyone, for walking me through this trauma! For the record, I did not perform any cheats on Kaji... none at all. The first time I saw Kaji summon Flopsy was in the Burrows, before I had tested any cheat codes in MOTB. My main character was imported from NWN2... and yes, she has cheated stats, so if this is Obsidian's way of making us cheaters crazy, they did a great job. Also, they're on my short list to burn in a very hot place...

Okay, I have a .jpg in Paint... how do I get it into a reply here, please? Edit: Okay, I have it on my account... but can't figure out how to get it from my "Manage Your Attachments" list into a reply. I'm really quite hopeless.

I have a screenshot in a Word document. I just don't know how to paste it into a reply here. If you can give me instructions, I can prove that Flopsy exists.

Thank you! A great suggestion, and much appreciated. I'll try it now and let you know if it works.

Because you lack a sense of humor? Seriously, you mention cheating up some stats. As I asked, is it possible you gave Kaji a level of Wizard? Which would have resulted in him picking up a familiar. Being called insane and implied to be a shroom-eating liar goes a bit beyond my sense of humor, I guess. I haven't touched Kaji. He summoned the rabbit down in the burrow, before I'd even tested the cheat codes. All I've done with Kaji is look at his stats and behaviors, and I might have changed the behaviors on the behavior chart. That's all.

Well, thanks for all the insults. I didn't know if anyone would help, but I've been reminded why I rarely post here any more. Forget it. I'll live with the frigging rabbit.

Damn, I wish I knew how to post a screenshot. My husband will vouch for the damned rabbit. He's seen it, and he's seen Kaji conjuring it every time it disappears. And it's not a familiar, it's more like a summoned pet.

Bah, I give up asking at the BioWare forums. Maybe Cantousent can help me. How the hell do I get rid of Kaji's summoned pet rabbit, Flopsy? People at BioWare forum don't even seem to know what I'm talking about, but that rabbit is driving me nuts. It's taking up a party spot that I need to conjure battle summons. So, Cantousent, am I missing a simple behavior tweak on Kaji, or is it Obsidians' evil joke on people who cheat in a couple of gold pieces and up the stats of their puny companions?

I've been playing NWN2 unpatched, right out of the box... because I had no choice. The massive patch online now is a 15-hour download for my clunky dial-up, and because there is no mirror site where I can use my download manager, the moment my connection blips I lose everything and have to start from zero. I got up to 94% once before my connection went down. So I gave up. I beg Obsidian to mirror their patches so those of us without benefit of broadband can actually partake of future patches. Please?

I really enjoyed NWN2. I sure hope the expansion maintains the basics of the original, and keeps the cheat code that allows me to have as many companions as I want, since it the comraderie of a full party added so much fun to my personal experience (your own experience may vary with my blessing!)

Please don't jump down my throat for asking this, because I only drop by to check on this project every few months... but there seems to be an excitement building. Is there as estimated ETA yet? I've looked forward to this for so very long...

I absolutely love NWN2, and I like Epic Rules as well, so this is great news for me! I'm very pleased.

Since I'm no longer able to edit the original message to contain this clarification, I'm adding this post to apologize to taks if he thought my comment ", I suspect taks will be here shortly to explain why the Electoral College is a gift from God, and should never, ever be repealed, amen", was meant as anything more serious than a teasing remark to a friend with whom I have had the same debate in the past. taks, I hope you recognized the tease was a reference to the other discussions we've had on the topic. I respect you immensely, and would never deliberately say anything to offend or insult you.

It matters as much as the issues to most voters, I'm afraid. Try to get an atheist elected president. Or a Wiccan. Or a Muslim in this day and age. Hell, some people popped a vein when we had a *gasp!* Jew running for veep! Bottom line, nobody will win the presidency unless they convince this country's Christian majority that they believe basically the same thing said Christians believe. Period. Because most people cannot separate their religion from their politics in their daily lives a hell of a lot of folks do not want their religion separated from their government. Religion has historically been hip deep in governments... still is in many places. That's why our founding fathers were quite skittish about keeping religion out of their brand new government. Too bad extremist Christians have been busy putting it back in over the past few decades... "Under God" and "In God We Trust" comes to mind.

I agree that the electoral college has gotta go. It's an archaic remnant, a compromise by the founding fathers between election of the president by Congress and election by popular vote. This was a time when the colonies were scattered, and it took weeks for local votes to be tabulated and the results "carried" by a representative (Elector) who chugged via horseback to cast their Electoral vote in person. Even if the Electors vote exactly as they promised to vote (which doesn't always happen, mind you), the end result is that the number of Electors assigned to each state insures that the vote of an individual from a low-population state like Iowa is worth ten times the vote of a person in a high-population state like California or New York. Does that sound fair? Only to the folks whose vote is worth ten times what my vote is worth. The theory is that if the vote of an Iowan isn't given more weight than the vote of a Californian, then California with its huge population would always dominate every election. Well, yeah. Hello... that's called democracy. Anyway, I hate the damned electoral college. Always have. Anyway, I suspect taks will be here shortly to explain why the Electoral College is a gift from God, and should never, ever be repealed, amen.

Nobody in this thread has said that or implied it. Maybe we could actually discuss the topic at hand without the routine snide nation-based insult? Although Aram is right, people would probably just shrug. However, freedom of speech in America is not all-encompassing, you are correct. One cannot threaten to murder someone without answering for it, nor can one incite violence or use speech to recklessly endanger others, ala the old "can't yell Fire! in a crowded theatre" example. I know for a fact that America is not the only country on the planet that has these kinds of limits on free speech, so your inference that Americans are somehow oppressed because we cannot use freedom of speech to threaten, intimidate, incite riots or endanger the lives of others falls rather flat.

Oh good god. I could have predicted it. Now we're into the "my country is better than your country" bullpucky. Sand: Please quote whatever line in my post that said I personally have had "such positive experiences with those of the healthcare profession", or implied that I have had "wonderful experiences." I simply said that you were painting every health care worker with the same brush used by a couple of idiots who were performing an illegal and immoral act. Which you were. Now stop trying to turn an issue-based discussion into fabrication about me personally, okay?

There are caring, professional medical folks, and there are narcisstic, money-grubbing medical folk. The same can be said of nearly every profession on the planet, frankly. The fact remains that the horrific and criminal manner in which these particular medical personnel handled these people is NOT public policy in the medical community. Period. For you to use a couple of illegal incidents to indict millions of health-care providers is like saying that because one convenience store clerk embezzled funds from the cash register, ALL convenience store clerks are therefore thieves. Look, I think health care in America has a long way to go... although I sure don't want it to go the way of so many countries with nationalized health care where, for example, the wait to get an infected, impacted wisdom tooth removed is 18 months! However, health care in the USA varies widely depending upon where one lives. In border states, for example, it's estimated that between 45% and 75% of hospital childbirth cases are illegal aliens. Since federal law does not allow hospitals to (A) turn away emergency medical cases, regardless of ability to pay; or (B) inquire as to the legal status of patients, literally hundreds of medical facilities in border areas have gone bankrupt and closed down completely. The result is that both medical care and health insurance in those states is much higher than the national average. So let's not just toss out simplistic allegations about overtly complex situations, m'kay?

Exactly. Unfortunately in this thread and every similar thread on this topic that I've seen, when cultural and historical differences are laid out to show why America and Europe think differently in regard to gun control, among other things, those comments are routinely ignored in favor of regurgitating meaningless statistical comparisons or simply skipping to the chase with the "America is violent/barbaric/murderous/insult-of-the-day society" silliness.

It's not like dumping sick indiginent folks on the curb is public policy, for crying out loud. It's against the law. The jokers who did it, and any higher-ups who condoned it, will face legal charges. Is it a bad thing when people break the law? Yes, for the most part it is. But people break the law every damned day. It sucks, of course, but I fail to see why this incident of law-breaking should cause more outrage than any other incident of law-breaking, and why it should be represented as public policy when clearly it is no such thing.