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Huh? Is this because I came down a bit hard on Nick for some of his choices? I apologize if some of my criticisms sounded less than constructive. No ill will was intended. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was completely just kidding. Sarcasm was intended.

No. Trashtalking is part of rude people

It's been more or less strongly implied that it will be FP (just like Oblivion) and RT combat. and yes, especially till we play Oblivion, we're just guessing.

way to screw it all up enoch

and, in the end, isn't that what the Olympics is all about? Bringing people together? Who wants coco!

As long as they maintain the look and feel I'm happy. And thats perfectly fine. Doesn't mean those that demand other aspects out of a FO3 are wrong. A dev said to me one time (the words might be off but the context is correct): -Beth will likely make a fun and succesful FO3. The current "hardcore" base will not see it as a Fallout game tho.- and I get it, from a business stand point, it might be impossible for a successful (in terms of Beths previous succes) FO to be made with iso and TB. Doesn't mean people have to be wildly happy about the choices. Doesn't mean, even in "hardcore" eyes it won't be a good RPG. The debate will just be if it is a good Fallout and frankly, that debate won't really change anything. EDIT: I should note that the "The current "hardcore" base will not see it as a Fallout game tho" line cuts both ways and was originally a shot at those fans. Obviously those fans would be of a different perspective.

So RT combat isn't part of Starcraft or Diablo? I find that hard to believe.

Bungie? MUCH HOTTER. I'm not to bothered by Beth doing it as a company, not thrilled, but not bothered. I just don't like how they have handled it publically so far and the choices they have made. Doesn't mean I don't understand them.

Lots of reasons. Not the least of which is that the FO name is still pretty press worthy and the obvious value of having 2 series in your portfolio. Not to mention the time you would save licensing instead of making a new universe. I mean, why make GTA3 from the GTA series? EDITED

a 3rd person iso game is not fallout. Fallout is a setting and storyline, as well as a story style. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Since this seems to be the crux of the arguement (that has been had a million times) let me jump in: Fallout IS in part a setting. It is NOT a "storyline". If FO2 took place on the east coast and had no reference (not that FO2 had a ton anyways) to FO1, it would have still been considered a sequel. FO to me is: Setting, TB combat, Nonlinear gameplay, Choices that matter, being able to play bad and good, SPECIAL, etc but Iso combat isn't on that list. It really isn't something that defines FO. The problem is, TB is. It is. There is a reason alot of TB games choose an Iso prospective. I've always viewed it like this: If I made Zelda a completely FP game, is it still Zelda? Would Zelda fans be mocked for getting (reasonably) upset about it? (I mean, they changed the art style of Zelda and people wanted blood) What if I made Starcraft 2 TB a la Heroes of might and magic? Or Diablo 3 TB? I do these things, but I called it "progress" or "evolution". Replacing the combat system is not an "update". Obviously at least some existing fans of the series would not be thrilled. Not only because of the changes to aspects of the game they enjoy, but because it is OBVIOUS that such changes to camera angles and combat style will have far greater effects than just combat. Now, sometimes fans think the changes work, see GTA3. That can obviously happen here. Sometimes, changing a forumla results in Master of Orion 3. That can happen too. So the game could be good, it could be bad, but what Beth is doing isn't the "evolution" of the series or anything like that. It's them reworking the FO series to fit what they know and the engine that they have (and frankly, it likely has more than a little to do with pleasing their existing fans, it's a business, they would be retarded not to). That doesn't mean people are irrational for not liking it. You would be irrational if you wrote the game of completely. Bottom line: Beth is making relatively drastic changes to what many consider to be one of the best RPGs of all time, and from the majority of things we think will remain form the originals, no one knows how those pieces will be used. It's up to them to show us that their changes and ideas work.

AICN post this fan alter image, I like it better:

Yeah, I don't like it. Both the design and the colors. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> agreed, it's crappy. It's bullet proof to an extent and can glide for awhile.

Simply put: You over-reacted and everyone here knows it. But guess what, I forgive you. That's what the mighty flying spaghetti monster would want. IIRC, there alot more summer sports tho, arn't there.

@Shadow: Makes sense. Knew there had to be something to it.

Volourn sums up my thoughts on the name calling, but I'd like to note you were apparently fine with all the trash talking until it was against Finland. Or, apparently, if mkreku says it in big gold letters. Only I became "sorry excuse of a human being" & a "total assbag". I wonder if you would like to inform all the other members of their apparent standing in your eyes.

::me biting my tongue:: I didn't shoot your dog or burn your embassy. That said, I'm not anonymous. I'm on frapper, my picture is posted, as is my name. ::I had a funny comment about Blades of Steel, I didn't use it tho:: I'm sorry, I can't hear you with all these medals clanking together " It's not a secret! I'll settle for an Austrian tho, do we have one?

Note: don't feel bad, I was going to make fun of whoever lost. Why? I'm just a bad person.

h8 u <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yoda was right! Hate does lead to suffering!

Don't tell me how to spell my own name It's Finslost Whoosweden, a mouth full, I know

yes, I love it!

I've changed my mind, i don't need a baby-seal to kill when i have you. Name and adress please? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> name: Finslost address: suckstobeyou lane

WHOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo SWEDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SWEDEN, SWEDEN, SWEDEN, SWEDEN!!!!!

As far as the Germans go, it would seem Hitler succeded in making a superior race, wtf is with these guys?

No real point in seeing now :D also, the girl playing gwen, imo, looks FANTASTIC for the role. Saw her on Leno iwth blond hair.

If you wern't a spy for the British, and likely have a liceanse to kill, I'd say somthing meanish