BruceVC

I actually think the initial reason for this thread was a veiled attack on me because how come Oby hasnt commented? Surly if Oby wants to really talk to me he\she would have by now? And I must say you are also one of the forum members who I feel we have never had any real issues...we have disagreed on some topics but it never gets personal "?

Bruce may just be young at heart. To be honest, judging from his posts I would never have guessed he is 41. But you are quite right, at age 41 you should be doing things like playing golf with other near-pensioners while discussing what fine wines you've added to the collection, not smoking weed with teenage girls in car parks. That sort of thing is simply not done! /nod nod Yes you make some accurate observations and I just want to add to it This forum is a gamers forum and there is a WoT where we discuss topics that resonate with gamers that suits me fine as I enjoy our debates which are normally light hearted IMO People who meet me normally say I look 28-34 …sometimes older but women think I look younger for some reason. But why people get on with me in RL is because they feel comfortable and obviously for any women I chat to they feel I am non-threatening..and of course sometimes people just don’t want to talk to me in RL So generally most women I offer a drink to will say yes but sometimes they accept the drink and walk away and that’s fine…they are under no obligation to talk to me just because I offer them a drink Why this is important is most women wont accept a drink from a stranger unless they feel comfortable because in SA some men think if a women says yes to a drink then she must now be expected to like him and there is an expectation of possible sex So you find women in SA generally say no to a drinks offer from strangers unless you can break the ice and not come across as someone who just wants something physical So yes I’m young at heart but what that translates that to in my interaction with strangers is the way Im good at reading people and finding a common topic that they feel comfortable talking about But you notice I’m really bad at Internet forum interaction because people constantly misunderstand my motives or why I say something. But if you met me in RL I would make sense ...I promise

100 % and even though we have never met or chatted you actually know me better than most people on this forum who I interact wth all the time And I'm not malicious or have bad intentions

Gotta agree with that, the concept of having a drink with strangers of any legal age is also pretty prevalent here (as long as the atmosphere is non-sexual). But of course for every ten of your years you're supposed to do with added class and composure. Hitting on people half your age is no-no.. (says the guy with a girlfriend 9 years younger than him) I am really glad you commented because you have unique experiences around interaction with people, I would argue you probably have views on social interaction that is more progressive and realistic and reflects the Danish society than most people For example that documentary you made about kissing random strangers I thought it was very impressive and offered a unique insight into general Danish social interaction. For me what particularly impressed me about that video, and I dont think anyone raised this but I thought this, is it takes a lot of confidence to be able to ask strangers what you did ...most people would never do that as the thought of being rejected once is enough to not ever do it I see the whole notion of rejection as just part of the overall structure of general social interaction, you cant take it personally as it helps refine what works for you. I like socializing, I like interacting with strangers , I like those random discussions you have with people you may never see again, I like to hear peoples life stories and I enjoy talking to women I dont know Now I do all these things because I believe you can always benefit and learn from others about the journey of life Finally I want to try to align this whole incident with this 17 year old with your own experiences to see if you agree with my perspective. I have found with talking to any women of any age what matters in most cases is the initial first impression you create...its strange but the first few things you say that create the initial impression can influence the entire interaction and just to be clear I am talking about an impression where the women feels comfortable and safe talking to you as strange man..I dont mean in a sexual way I realize I left out a very key part of my story and that part is " why would a young women offer an older man a joint" (and this could be about her buying me a drink for example ) So the conversation went like this ( and remember this scenario is the same as you talking to any women at a bar that you dont know as I know you also interact with strangers ) So she was standing in front of me waiting to get served and I'm just summarizing me : hello her : hello me : what you buying her :cigarettes me: I'm buying lose because then I smoke less her : yeah I'm buying a box Now at this point in the conversation I wanted to make her laugh so I said something that can have mixed results me : but I thought you were trying to stop smoking Now of course I dont know her but I also know most smokers want to stop but I also know human beings generally react a certain way when a stranger says something they have said before...they suddenly think this person knows them so she responded exactly the way I was hoping her : how did you know I want to stop , ( now she was almost impressed by my insight ) me : I then told her it was just a normal smokers thing her: you look like smoked a joint , do you me: yes but I dont have now her : do you want to join us for a joint And then we started interacting and as you probably know when you meet strangers or any women you dont talk about things that that will probably be boring to them or they wouldn't have an interest in So we all chatted about music and politics and things we had in common...the age difference wasnt even a consideration because our interaction wasn't about that I dont expect many people on this forum to necessarily understand this whole event but I am hoping you do?

Yes and the word maturity is very subjective and will have different definitions depending where you live and the context of where that applies You are looking at this situation from the right perspective of someone who lives in a first world country and you correct But I live in a country that doesnt have your social structures that are part of why you have a different view to mine

Yes I'm 41 but I fail to see how now that now means I should so " no " when a stranger offers me a joint, what if she was 25, 28....maybe 32. Because I have also smoked weed with strangers that age Its not about her age as thats irrelevant and remember I'm giving them a lift, its a huge super club with 4 dance floors ..I will be around my own friends. They can hang with me or not, they like the one dance floor that I dont like so we probably wont see much of each other And yes I understand you thinking smoking a joint in a car park is wrong but to think its about her age is missing the point. Anyway we come from different countries and have different social structures ....also you are teacher and I respect the fact you take the responsibility around what that means to younger people seriously I have different moral values and smoking weed when offered to me by a stranger irrespective of age is not considered terrible

It's a position I'd hold for only a few moments. Just long enough to fire most of the moderators, not replace them, and then dissolve my position. Who would you fire and why and who would you appoint to replace them...so if you believe some Mods should be replaced you should also explain who is your ideal Mod forum member ....because if you cant give viable alternatives to the current Mods then your comment is just armchair rhetoric ..baseless and more annoying than constructive And also what I think you dont realize is people like you, me, volo and Oby have said at times many comments that if the Mods were more "active " like you imply they need to be we would have banned long time ago. I know this because I have been banned from forums before and you have made several comments that were direct personal attacks on people and these could be considered forum offenses So in summary the Obsidian Mods may appear to be not following your view of forum moderation but if they were harder you would have been banned ages ago and you wouldn't even have the platform to make this criticism. Finally there are some members who have been active for over 10 years on this forum ...so how can the Mods be so bad if people have been members for so long? This is a rhetorical question....the answer is " well the Mods are not bad at all and allow people to have engaged, heated but reasonable debate "

I completely understand this post and I'll respond as it summarizes a valid criticism but once again people didn't read my post or understand the context because I dont feel even the slightest bit of guilt or feel I'm doing something wrong Im not sure who started using the word " under-age ", this is not about sex and never was even though a discussion around this was started . Weed is illegal in SA so no matter what age you are it is illegal. But no one really cares about that law and many people smoke weed I smoke weed and its common to smoke a joint with other weed smokers, so the one girl (17 years ) I met in the garage 24 hour shop , 10 pm at night , and we started talking. She said to me " do you want to come to car park and have a joint with me and my friends" ...since i smoke weed and felt like a joint I said " yes, great idea " ...but at this stage I had no idea how old she was as it was irrelevant I then met her two friends and smoked a joint, we then chatted for about 15 minutes. We spoke about politics, white privilege, travelling overseas etc. Normal SA smoking topics. They also told me about how they go to a club called Truth that I also go to and they wanted to go next weekend which is when I'm going anyway so I said " you girls can come with me and then you dont need to drive " ..they all agreed this made sense ( at this point I still didnt know how old they were as it was still irrelevant ) Only just before I left did I ask them " what they did for a living " and the whole age incident was raised. The teacher is not there teacher but teaches at a private school and they are both home schooled ...I cant remember how they actually know each other Now once I found out the one girl was 16 and the other one was 17 I had already accepted a gift of free weed and had offered them a lift to Truth..so what exactly do people think I should have done and what would have been the reason for doing it? They are going to Truth anyway and just because I'm old enough to be there father why would anything I say mean anything to them..they dont know me so why should they care?

Ah don't sweat it. You are hardly the first person on this board whose career and life did not turn out the way you envisioned it. Look at it this way, for the rest of eternity at least some small part of you will always be running out Nipton shouting about winning the lottery. That;s probably a lot more then most of us will leave behind! I'm not sure if this is one of those posts that means " its not as bad as it seems " or " life is hard, we must adapt and move on " ?

2 kg....holy smoke dude thats a lot ...what type of candy was it ?

I realize now why I find it pointless.,...so the developers clearly think this is helping some inclusivity agenda and its around highlighting racism.... but is it doing anything to address racism? For example take me, I am a white South African who is very active already because of the history of Apartheid in dealing with racism...but its in the South African context which is unique to SA....so this goblin message is irrelevant A person who is real a racist I doubt in anyway would feel guilty or want to change his view because of this goblin incident And a person who doensn't care about racism or non-racism wont be swayed so he will just ignore the message anyway This is exactly why I dont expect or push a SJ agenda anymore in games, it seems utterly pointless. I support several SJ themes in RL but this is real and I see meaningful impact

Leferd I know you normally stay out these "SJW" debates but dont you agree it seems like tokenism...its like you think " okay this doesn't really fit in "

Yes but surly the goblin makes you at least think of racism...so you can play a game and think of racism in RL So its a win win for everyone? No. Goblin accuses my character of racism, not me. And if he is saying that, he is probably right. What happens in game has no relevancy to what is happening in RL. And if the setting is interesting, for me to enjoy the game, it is the same to play power mad racist piece of ****, or rainbow pissing carebear lover. It does seem a little strange and pointless to make a point about racism using a goblin....is that even a valid symbol that represents racism that people will recognize ?

Is there really a goblin that accuses you of racism in the game?

Yes but surly the goblin makes you at least think of racism...so you can play a game and think of racism in RL So its a win win for everyone?

Why do people keep acting like there's a *problem* in the story? Mizhena literally mentions being trans once, and understandably the dialogue doesn't delve into the details of her anatomy. The internet is full of people writing fanfiction about whether she needs the girdle of masculinity/femininity or not, but that's... really not a subject worth delving into? Regardless of the setting's established solutions and different attitudes towards gender roles, you'd still have people assigned one gender at birth that would end up identifying as another, which is the category that Mizhena fits. Zora he makes a good point, your post does seem illogical

I hate to say it - to specifically you, that is - but Meshugger is trolling you. A single parent (mother or father) does not a person define. Don't feed the trolls - at least, not when they're actually trolling. P.S. I'm probably only obligated to say this because I was raised by only my mother, too. Oh, there's only trolling to certain degree. Raised by a single parent is not necessarily detriment to a child's development in some cases, but in others it might be. I was sincerely curious because i Bruce's behaviour just seems odd at times, like him using the same infantile arguments girls would do to tease boys and then seeming to be 1) completely surprised by the "colorful" responses, 2) failing to understand why he gets them and 3) finally shifts the blame on those responding for being mean in their tone. I have suspected as much for a long time and his life story explains it well. There's more that could be said, but i leave him alone for now. My suspicions were warranted and i got what i wanted. Cheerio! Shame poor you, do you get teased by girls regularly ? Is that why you recognize the pattern?

Correct, now we have to wait for a year Zora seems to think they are in another time loop or will need one ? But nothing that happened to the team of magicians that rest wont fix and magic can heal the traveler hands ? Googled the books. While the series made some major changes from the books, Penny losing his hands and Alice dying do happen when they confront the beast, but in the book Alice succeeds in killing him. She turns into one of those magic ghost things and Quentin is able to reconstitute her in the 3rd book. Showrunner said this obviously diverges from the books as Alice survives, but they are trying to work her death in somewhere else. The entire story with Julia is in the 2nd book, and ties into the reawakening of the gods. I think I want to read the books now. They sound really good. Thats interesting, geez I also want to read the books ..how does Alice kill him? And how does Penny gets his hands fixed and Eliot and Margo what happens to them in the books

Correct, now we have to wait for a year Zora seems to think they are in another time loop or will need one ? But nothing that happened to the team of magicians that rest wont fix and magic can heal the traveler hands ?

HI Oerwinde " waves " Can we discuss Magicians in the TV series thread ?

A few months away from what I've heard. [insert Darth Vader scream here]

I hate to say it - to specifically you, that is - but Meshugger is trolling you. A single parent (mother or father) does not a person define. Don't feed the trolls - at least, not when they're actually trolling. P.S. I'm probably only obligated to say this because I was raised by only my mother, too. Exactly, I dont think being raised by a mom is bad?You get raised with love and that does matter And we use to see my cousins who had married parents but I didnt ever play baseball or catch and my mom never really had boyfriends So I doubt that is my problem because there are lots of kids raised like we were

Well thats basically what you have done when you joined the EU You just can't help yourself, can you? But thanks for highlighting on how EU is bad Europe and western civilization at large. OMG....please dont tell you are seriously complaining about the EU.,.,.... Says the one who admits to preposterous idea that weapons haven't solved anything and that someone else should be in charge of your safety and rights. Considering the level of retort sounds like something a 12 year old girl would make....were you raised without a father figure? Or perhaps by a single mother? Either way, stop drunkposting. I'm stoned not drunk....why you guys in such a bad mood ? Hmmm, no sense of responsibility or awereness of surrounding atmosphere. Yup, sounds like the result of a weak, or the lack of, father figure. No wonder you hate Trump. Well that is true, my parents were divorced when I was 1 and I was raised by my mom in a matriarch society But I saw my dad every 3rd weekend as he was a banker and always working....so I didnt have a father figure but I dont regret being raised by women as gender equality was instilled in me So do you think thats the issue ...no father figure. But my dad took us overseas on holiday every year since I was about 9, that is very lucky...you throw money at the guilt of not seeing your kids? So how do I fix myself ? What do you suggest I do? But now you understand why I am such supporter of womens rights and yes its one of the reasons I don't like Trump..but I dont hate him

Well thats basically what you have done when you joined the EU You just can't help yourself, can you? But thanks for highlighting on how EU is bad Europe and western civilization at large. OMG....please dont tell you are seriously complaining about the EU.,.,.... Says the one who admits to preposterous idea that weapons haven't solved anything and that someone else should be in charge of your safety and rights. Considering the level of retort sounds like something a 12 year old girl would make....were you raised without a father figure? Or perhaps by a single mother? Either way, stop drunkposting. I'm stoned not drunk....why you guys in such a bad mood ?

Well thats basically what you have done when you joined the EU You just can't help yourself, can you? But thanks for highlighting on how EU is bad Europe and western civilization at large. OMG....please dont tell you are seriously complaining about the EU.,.,....