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I have both, and given the choice between buying a game for the disc-scratching banshee-screaming 360 and the reliable quietly humming PS3, I'll take Sony's offering any day of the week. Hell, my X360 is labeled "mass effect" in my source list

I'd say that he's 'wrong', lying requires that you know the truth and intentionally saying the opposite. Of course, rating ONE game 75 % in a catalogue as comprehensive as theirs is, is hardly conclusive proof that he is, in fact, even 'wrong'. Besides, nobody likes lawyers. Even I don't. I mean, I have a few lawyer friends, but most of them are 'accidental' lawyers who'd rather do something completely different from regular 'lawyering'. Me, I'd love to be a game producer.

Well, the older you get, the more likely (hopefully) you'll see that the truth is rarely either of the two extremes, but somewhere in between. And... Deliberately spreading falsehoods? Distorting the truth? I can't be bothered to look back for a fitting one to your particular dilemma, but I'm sure a thesaurus will be of help

Demiurge? Run for your lives!! Nope, I've seen Dr. Greg mention the console dev at some point, and it definitely wasn't Demiurge. I'd never heard of it, and my google-fu was weak and didn't bring anything up on it, but they were supposed to know what they were doing with the PS3. Today's mood status: Am going to buy it for PS3 now, PC later. Besides, if the x360 version turns out to be a complete mess, I can always cancel my PS3 pre.

I've known a few girls whose butt movement has had the ability to make everything else still. Maybe that's the case here?

Maybe it's just me, but the use of 'lying' and 'unfair' on a video game board tend to make me think that the author of that particular post is 12, if not younger. Could possibly be a professional bias most lawyers have against the two terms, we kind of dance around them, even if they are pretty central in our work.

Well, you probably know what Bio has said on their board as well as I do, if not better. Basically all we've been hearing is PC vs. 'console versions'. With the PS3 version handled by an external studio, at least to a degree, one can only guess what the end result will be. Another PC->take into account Xbox360limitations->x360->see what you can get to work from the x360 version->PS3 port like usual, or will it be a separate branch from the PC version, optimised for the PS3 (like Red Alert 3 was). Unfortunately, everything I've heard so far is making me lean towards the first one. Oh, and I believe that the reason for the removal of the tactical zoomout was the lack of RAM on the x360. Both the consoles have the same amount of RAM (512MB), including video RAM, just wired a bit differently between the two of them.

The only game I've got in the last 2 months was GTA IV from the bargain bin. And I regret every minute I spent on it somewhat more than the twentysomething euros I wasted on it. ...Unless that Monkey Island 'remaster' came out in the last two months, that I got my money's worth out of. Current games-to-buy list basically consists of Alpha Protocol; I've got MW2 and DAO on the look-see list, but I don't do online gaming so full-price for MW2 seems just like money badly spent, and well, I'm teetering between the watered-down console DAO or just not getting it until later. I used to have a really long list of games I was going to get this year, but it's shriveled pretty fast (Wolfenstein and Ghost Busters were on it, and now I can't summon enough energy to give a toss about either of them)

I was really looking forward to DAO, and have the PS3 version on preorder. However the BG fan in me weeps every time new details of the console alterations leak. I'm probably going to cancel my pre, and just hold off buying the game until I have a PC rig that can run it well (if ever - current outlook isn't good for future gaming).

Probably more related to the EA acquisition than not bothering.

I was referring to the publishers, and what we are seeing now being the possible result of some kind of collective paranoia or whatnot. Namely, when game publishers start to view a phenomenon as a problem, it'll soon become a problem for you. Random example: Daemontools and copy protection that blocks games from working when you have Daemontools installed - there are apparently some quite valid reasons for using said software, I know my university supplied computer came with it, but yet they've made a problem out of it for you too.

Not sure what you mean with core mechanic? As in decisions are mostly made practically instead of, say, in discussions? Mmh, the main problems that I see with IW were a) xbox limitations led to some uninspired level design with a lot of laughably convenient air ducts b) their attempts to think outside the box (unified ammo) failed miserably. And probably c) they showed a lot of really REALLY cool stuff until fairly late into the production cycle, none of which made it to the final product. Oh yeah, and d) removal of pretty much all the RPG (gameplay) elements.

Your point? No point in jumping down that guys throat.

Well, considering that he mentions Deus Ex as one of his favourite games, a game that had WAY less customising than AP is apparently going to have, sort of undermines the legitimacy of his argument and drifts it to the clueless/trolling department.

The fact that it was ported by Demiurge, so no valuable Bioware resources were wasted on it, makes me think that they didn't exactly throw cash at that port.

Apparently, it's a problem in a lot of peoples minds. And when enough people think something is a problem, it becomes one, whether it really is 'problematic' by nature or not.

It was just an off-hand comment, made because I actually had to figure out what TC meant. Well, I still haven't, but the meaning has become clear from this later discussion

Or a broke grad student.

Lol, no. Actually, I think the publishers might be making another rake at that. I kind of like the way Bioware's handling it, giving original buyers access to free 'bonus' DLC.

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Most 360/PS3 players, have never heard of BG. As for the console version of DA:O, that's what happens when a game is made for PC first, consoles second. I think you're underestimating the amount of BG fans who find themselves without a computer able to run (even) DAO. In the larger context, I have no doubt you are right - but I think those are the people the Marilyn Manson ads are directed at.

Mass Effect, Fallout 3, Hitman: Blood Money and Bioshock are rated 18+ by PEGI. And that was just the ones I could see from here, without getting up.

I dunno, the amount of American kids on the Mass Effect forums, for example, is pretty outrageous.

Dragon Age has EA's marketing and Bioware's("From the makers of Mass Effect") name on it. It's going to sell, but it will probably disappoint a huge number of people expecting a Mass Effect with swords. Call me a pessimist, but I think that game is going to disappoint a huge number of people, period. There's a lot of funky stuff going on with the console versions we impoverished BG(2) fans are freaking out about.