TwinkieGorilla

ummmm, which argument are we talking about?

aw, crud. you? wassup, you miss our arguments since i been gone or sth?

yes, yes, yadda, yadda, yadda. i was making a little "buh-dum-ching!" joke about the degradation of PC games since the Console boom. sheesh. guess who i'm not inviting to a party? (you. yeah, you.)

(pssst. the xbox hasn't always existed.) it's really not that important. if you didn't find it amusing, i apologize (with tears).

yeh. me too. if only i knew years ago that this would happen...i'd have been nicer. tee-hee. but, anyway...even as subcontracted companies they can't visit? I know i saw Sawyer at teh codex. maybe they just need to hire a mule if this is truly true.

it's always been the point to sell to the Xbox? i think you missed my joke, mate. ahhg! get away! get away goddammit!

well that's the whole point nowadays ain't it? <3 mikael (even if you are a damn Khajiit-loving furry)

agreed. *rubs sleep out of eyes* so, hey...wassup guys? wadder we talkin' 'bout now?

there were a few incarnations. the original group (the one which recorded the songs we know them for) did not make it beyond the 50's. bit o' reference: Ink Spots

lulz. just change "you" to "goo" and it's a winner.

(btw i'm totally not knowledgeable about this stuff... i just started looking Vegas stuff up on monday when the news broke out. lulz.)

nope, they were done before the 60's (at least the original group) and "Maybe" is pre-50's. well, ****. Sinatra it should be then. not necessarily. the "Rat Pack" was originally Bogart's posse and did in fact, start in the 50's as did the beginning of the Vegas swing.

since it's Vegas and it's 50's...Sinatra would be the best choice, but probably the most expensive. i'm trying to rack my brain at something else that would have an impact.

(that song's from the late 60's) (Sammy wasn't an original RatPacker. just a famous one.)

or better yet, how much money will it cost to gain the use of a Sinatra song? keeping it in the 50's, there's "To Love and Be Loved" which could hold a nice ironic twist if they use the "to be safe and sheltered from the storm" bit.

it's more about the issue thematically. implied sexuality, not just ignoring that humans are sexual creatures. nobody needs to actually SEE nudity. that ain't the point or the problem.

yeah. "Violence is ****in' funny!" but nudity is "****in' scary!"

if Bethie allows it. it's Bethesda after all!

i know man, i get you. i'm not arguing that (i just said it was silly!) but ANY time in FO3 where there is decent writing or exposition on back-story, hell...i'll take it. because the dialogue and the rest of the writing is as poor as it comes. of course, that being said i'd still like to see a more realistic approach with dialogue & story done better.

well...it's not necessarily that FO1 & 2 were "totally realistic, yay!" but more that FO3 is kinda arbitrarily unrealistic. like..., ok a thin chance that after rummaging around on shelves you'll get a rotten meat platter that barely heals you or 5 billion stimpacks, boxes of food everywhere, and well...you get it. now the computers, i agree it's silly...but as i said, i really liked that element and thought that was a good example of well-implemented suspension of disbelief because they actually enhanced the story.

hey Sawyer, go get MCA and a tape recorder. create a wav file of the two of you simultaneously saying, in calm voices "don't worry. it's going to be alright this time" and i guarantee we'll all stfu for the rest of the year. no srsly. c'mon.

i agree with both these posts and have had this discussion countless times (the Bethie people seem to just love this style of storytelling tho) but to be fair, those magically functioning green-screens contain the best writing (i.e. most Fallout-y feeling) in the game.

yer, i'd be one of 'em. but i don't really hate Bethie, i just hate their style of gaming and i hate what they're doing to the RPG genre. they're turning it more toward the LARPing and away from the rolling, skillchecks and choice/consequence. in Bethie's world, everybody wins! you can be a furry cat person playing house and dress up and drinking mead and wandering around aimlessly for days! wheeee! what i truly HATE with an all-caps attitude, is that they've dragged my favorite game into their world. now...i'd be fine with this world if all the rest of Fallout wasn't sacrificed in order for it to fit. which it was. i'm hoping very much our old BIS friends can lend some justice. if not, oh well...we already lost. true, i've still not seen all the areas. though i'm not exactly loading the game up very frequently. i haven't really seen people say that. do people say that? maybe it's the lack of varying content in every single area which tricks them into thinking they're all in the same claustrophobic janitors closet with batteries and scrap metal. *shrugs*

believe me, i could have an all-nighter conversation about the damn dialogue responses and the lack of a properly implemented SPECIAL system which, unlike with the originals, didn't affect the dialogue or your character in any meaningful way. at. all. 'cept i'm totally on a smoke break while watching "Bunker Palace Hotel" and have to get back to it!

those were simpler times, eh? making fun of Bethie was easy because of Oblivion and FO3 hadn't broken any hearts (outside of the abstract) yet. [intelligence] So you're saying there are possibilities?