SchroedsCat

Well, at least nobody has to be forced. If I don't like it, I don't have to buy it. I'm not even trying to be salty, I just won't spend money on a game I have no interest in. I love Eora but that love is deeply connected to 'my' watcher, her story, her decisions and her connections to her companions. And to the darn cliffhanger that will apparently never be solved.

The watching and metaphysic-ing was always the most fun part for me. I really have no desire for a dumb action "RPG".

Feeling really really torn on this. I'd prefer me my Eora to stay isometric and with a party At least the franchise isn't dead though...

Maybe try to view this less as a crpg oldtimer and more like a general gamer. I started with Megadrive games that had no voice acting. Then look at younger generations of gamers who grew up with every line being voiced, games generally getting more cinematic, yadda yadda. Just compare the quality of game VO 20 years ago to now. It's worlds apart. I doubt that making crpgs just for us old farts would be very economical. You have to pick the youngsters up somewhere. Also citing random people who disliked the narrator from the forum is as anecdotal as you accuse me of being.

Yes, you totally can't say VO is expected because it's not like games have been becoming more and more fully voice acted since the mid 2000s... Party based RPGs included. Hello there, D:OS EE! And don't give me "but Pathfinder did it". This was the first game by a tiny studio with a tiny budget. Games in the A-AAA range are a different caliber.

Try Sawyer's postmortem. He talks about this at length. Hell, I still see posts about PoE how the non-full VO is considered unprofessional for some. Excuse me? I'm not the only one saying this on here. Try this exact thread here for a start.

Most customers expect it though, nowadays. Will nobody think of the Twitch Streamers?? XD

This one is most sad that you are so underappreciative of the ja'khajiit. Ah, it is a sadness. I regularly play Bethesda games, it needs more than some bugs to scare me off.

I saw that too. Would speak for the marketing and maybe time of release just being kind of bad.

Also quite bisexual

I don't know how many gay men you know but you're seriously underestimating their "gaydar". There exists scientific research into this. Tekehu just thinks he's god's gift to kith kind and he's like this to everyone. Just take him along through Neketaka, the smith lady hit him with a hammer when he got too grabby and the owner of the Mare was pissed at his advances as well.

Then enlighten me. Who would be a perfect charismatic strong man™? Who from PoE would be one? Eder? I'm early thirties, can't be that ruined by modern media then, can I? And believe me, I'm one of the people who silently facepalms when someone wants to be referred to as "they".

But technically, Castol is more competent than his replacement. I don't see what makes Atsura and Furrante so wimpy. What would you have preferred to manly men? Proper men? Machos? Paragons of masculinity?

So out of curiosity, which of the men are wimps and which are the manly men?

The characters aren't really bisexual, they're playersexual. Which is a way to save resources while writing and coding the game. Also no random people on the internet getting angry at the devs for not being to romance their fave NPC. Personally, this kind of solution isn't my cup of tea but I don't care much for game romances anyway. And yeah, Xoti hitting on my watcher was kind of annoying. For Tekehu though, it's just part of his character.

I still remember the days of Schw. Tr. d. Le.en.-W. in Oblivion. So yeah, still played it. With rolling eyes and clenched teeth. But I played it.

From what I heard, it might also be that the more wordy prose was simply not very well translated. Can only talk about hearsay, I play everything, save for Daedalic adventures, in English.

That's not the impression I had from that talk. In any case, would be nice if someone from Obsidian came forward with a definitive will they/won't they instead of the marketing speak. So I can save my time and money for other games.

Didn't Sawyer himself say something along the lines of "was okay in the end" at his post mortem speech? I'm not trying to devalue the work of the devs by saying "less expensive". It's just that they have a decent and pretty engine, they have the turn based option. That's some good groundwork for a new game. Hell, with Microsoft they might even have a decent add campaign this time around. I loved PoE but the existence of Deadfire went below my radar for an embarassingly long time.

NOOOOOOOOO! Ahem, anyway. Forums on Steam, Reddit and the likes around this game still seem to be pretty active and RPGs generally seem to have a long tail. I hope Deadfire was able to catch up a bit more by now. I mean come on, this kind of game is less expensive to produce than an AAA title. They could even reuse plenty of assets from Deadfire.

That's where opinions really diverge because I'm unbelievably tired of these generic DnD worlds. New lore is exciting, Torment was fantastic. Consequent worldbuilding everywhere. Same reason I like Pillars.

I'm not arguing that these books are readable as single offs. It's just that knowing the bigger picture is so much more involving. Take the returning characters in Deadfire, it's like meeting some old buddies again. I like this kind of connective tissue between different installments, it pulls me deeper into the world. That's why I'd want PoE2 to once again feature the watcher.

Funny you mention Discworld. Because again there are plenty of points, especially with the Witches and by extension the Tiffany Aching books or Death's stories where you will only get the full experience if you know the previous books. (Spoiler for the last Tiffany book)

Just downloaded bound for this. Will read when I finish my current book. If Obsidian ever wants to release some full novels, I'd totally buy them. I enjoyed the short stories a lot as well.