Wrath of Dagon

Yes, you've learned that opinions are not facts, good for you. Now take a short quiz: Betty wears a green dress. Betty is nice. Can you spot the fact? Very good girls and boys. Then you realize that you can't objectively say that the quality of games has gone down and did indeed present your opinion as a fact? An opinion is by definition subjective. Why do you claim I presented my opinion as fact? Anyone who understands the difference between opinions and facts (which is taught in elementary school btw, hence my example) can't possibly think I'm claiming my opinion is fact, unless I explicitly stated that, which I didn't. Unfortunately 90% of the internet seems to have missed that day of school.

Yes, you've learned that opinions are not facts, good for you. Now take a short quiz: Betty wears a green dress. Betty is nice. Can you spot the fact? Very good girls and boys.

Games are much more complex now from a technical point of view. The experiences are more streamlined, the games more formulaic. The innovation seems to come more from smaller indie games with the bigger developers taking less risks. The complexity of gameplay and the importance of story/characters/writing may have declined, but the overall quality of products has undoubtedly gone up. Wow

Yes, I think the publisher usually lets them know when they expect the game to ship. But if given vague guidance, they're not above guessing arbitrarily.

Great to hear they're so responsive. Looks like we have a winner here.

I think there has been a noticeable decline in quality.

I actually have no lack of games to play, more a lack of time, especially PC strategy. I miss great games like Thief, KOTOR, and Shenmue though, there really hasn't been anything great lately.

Here's an interesting interview with the developer: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/02/03...ice-pick-lodge/

How do you figure that?

Hmm, it does sound like they're simply having certification difficulties, not surprising since we're talking about Obs. Perhaps retailers just made up a 2010 date when they found out the game was being delayed by an unspecified amount.

Thanks for proving that you have the reading comprehension level of a second grader. That's OK, since you got the reasoning and writing skills of a first grader.

Bioware has definitely been on the decline, hopefully it'll reverse with DAO. But games in general have been terrible for the last few years, the only great non-sim games I've played are the Orange Box and Braid, and the OB is mostly last gen.

May be it'll sell better over time based on good word of mouth, at least I hope so. That's the idea.

Actually the "mass effect" and "element zero" nonsense in ME was based on dark energy, Bio said so.

Then the vast swathes of the world are barbarians, we know they're vulnerable children who need to be protected against sexual predators. It was a false analogy. You were trying to assimilate my questioning of a poorly defined aphorism with questioning the substance and associated ethics of murder - a thinly veiled personal argument. That was dishonest. I didn't think it merited a serious response, so I took the rhetorical path. At that point there was no arguement to lose anymore. Huh? Do you even understand what you're saying yourself, or are you just stringing words together at random?

So you admit you were being dishonest, because otherwise you'd lose the argument. Why don't you show how my argument was a poorly built fallacy? And the Bible doesn't define murder btw, it just says you shouldn't do it, but I guess you don't know that on your own.

Heh, I just happened to read this yesterday http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/04/10...art-1-the-body/ Spoils everything, but you probably won't play it anyway. Sounds like a great game though. That same developer is coming out with a new game too http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/09/29...think-the-void/

OK, I'll put it in my queue, thanks.

I don't think it's a question of "Bioware writing" like all their writing is the same. Some of ME1 writing came off pretty bad, but it could be for reasons other than the writer, like it's pretty hard to write a quest when you're told it can't use any resources. This SZ video was just plain awful.

The droid factory is restored, yay! Will have to get the PC version now.

Sega won't change their site until they've made an official announcement, which obviously they haven't done yet. And obviously it's not releasing on Oct 6.

So? This is still a free country. And any publicity like that would've only helped the game. Anyway, I don't think the tone is serious enough for those kinds of things to even be controversial, this is more spy fantasy than a gritty look at the darker side of covert operations. Edit: I'm under the impression the actual mission maps are quite linear and don't allow exploration, which is what I assumed to have caused the "barely RPG" comment.

Funny. When the State ends the life of somebody, we say "it was JUSTICE". When I go and stab somebody then it's "murder". Or not. It depends on what the lawmakers at the time agree murder is, no? In principle I agree that you have to draw the line somewhere, but that is mostly completely disconnected from reality. It's just a matter of bureaucratic feasibility. So, please, tell me where you get this unwavering certainty from, that lets you see "pretty clearly" where the line needs to be drawn. Or I could be dishonest and assume you are just making stuff up as you go or quoting directly from your Bible. The lawmakers need to tell you what murder is, you don't understand yourself? Are you being serious or intellectually dishonest? Value judgments are subjective, and of course they are influenced by culture. That doesn't mean what a barbarian believes is as valid as what a civilized person believes.

Marc Rich specifically. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Rich Automatic value judgments? And what do you propose to substitute? Shall we argue whether it's wrong to murder people? That's an automatic value judgment, isn't it? You have to draw the line somewhere, and usually it's pretty clear where it needs to be drawn.

No chance, nothing here is based on real events, so the comparison doesn't apply. Also, if "6 days in Fallujah" didn't have "Fallujah" in the title, no one would've noticed.