Judge Hades

If the world doesn't like the US poking its nose in the business of other countries then I say we pull out completely and let them fend for themselves. It is as simple as that.

Come the the Viesha celebration here in Iowa next spring. I am sure there will be another drunken riot. I mean, its not a good Viesha without drunks rampaging and tear gas flowing.

I think it all depends on the severity of the transgression. If something is really really really bad and distasteful, an instant ban might be needed. If it looks like someone was just having a bad day moment a slap on the wrist and a reminder of forum rules only be needed.

I haven't. Seriously.

ToEE was even moreso. Hell, ToEE was unplayable for me out of the box while Icewind Dale and Icewind Dale 2 worked right out of the box. I had to do some convoluted install to just get the damn game to work and even then there were tons of things wrong with it. ToEE is a failure of design and it is good that Troika is no longer around to make such bug infested unworking games.

I haven't gotten a single warning for my spewing spam. At least not any warnings that I remember, though I am sure I ticked off a mod or three here and there and gotten close.

+You would just pay back the loan, if you haven't already, and that would be that. Like I said we would keep trade relations but no loans or troops in case a country gets into trouble. Also as for asking for the money back "right away" WW2 happened 50 years ago plus. You had all that time to pay it back. I have no problem with your view Battlewookie and in fact I share it in many ways. The US should not send its sons and daughters to foreign countries to clean up the messes that they made for themselves. We shouldn't give money to other countries when we have homeless and people without proper medical care right here at home. Loans are not gifts and they need to be settled. If a coutnry can't pay its debts, like a person, that country's assets should be siezed. In terms of national boundries that would be all property, civillian or governmental, own by citizens of said nation taken over then assessed in value, after of which needs to be applied to pay back the loan. If the countries we are giving these loans to didn't want to pay them back or take responsibility for them then they should have never asked for or accepted the loan in the first place.

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May the Force spam with you.

So you admit your country is dependent on the US. Now, tell me what would happen if the US decides to eliminate all funding to your country and seeks repayment of all loans given. How long do you think your country would survive. Personally I think that it would be for the best. Strong countries would definitely survive while weaker ones will be either absorbed by the larger countries or consumed by internal strife. If you hate the US then don't take our resources and don't expect us to send troops over to aid you. That is my view of it.

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Or use the Ignore function. I have it on certain individuals I don't like. Its a wonderful little add on.

I think we should stop aiding other countries. I think the burdon of doing so should be in the hands of someone else. After all we wouldn't want to be looked as an evil empire now would we. I think that separating ourselves militarily and aid from the rest of the world would really do us some good. It would free up resources we could be using at home instead abroad. Of course we will still export and import with other countries. We shouldn't be isolationistic in this global economy but we should stop being the nursemaid.

I will be the first to say that the military is not the best place for some people, especially me. When I was in the Navy all the rules and restrictions were maddening, let alone being cooped up in a tiny ship with absolutely no privacy nearly drove me bonkers officially. I had a choice of a standard military medical discharge or a freaking section 8. I decided not to have a Section 8 and a day later was given my papers. I will say that overall my time in the Navy was interesting and I do not overly regret the decision of joining though next time I have a major decision like that come up I will not depend on a coin toss for the results.

I could use one of those right now. Iowa is freaking rigid right now.

Okay Battlewookie, think on this. Over the last century or so what country has been called up to bail other countries out of a jam? Was it Germany? Nope, they caused 2 world wars. Was it Sweden or Switzerland? Nope, they were neutral. Was it Japan? Nope, they were causing problems of their own by conquering their neighbors. Hmm... WHAT BLOODY COUNTRY DID EUROPE AND MANY OTHERS CALL FOR HELP?!?!?! The United Freakin' States. Every single freaking time. As I said, I propose that we remove all troops from all counties anbd bring them back here to the US. I propose that we end all foreign aid to all countires as well. I propose that we remove ourselves from NATO and the UN and boot the UN out of the United States. I also propose that we demand all foriegn loans be paid within 3 months. If these loans are not paid then we sieze all assets of that foriegn nation within our borders and place trade sanctions on that country till the debt is paid. Of course we will still trade with other countries but we will give no aid, financially or militarily no matter how much that country begs. What do you say Battlewookie, does that sound like a good idea?

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Like what was said earlier ToEE is a DnD combat simulator. IWD is definitely better.

They say a dog is man's best friend but putting gravy on your slong and letting your dog lick it off is taking it a little to far. :D

Nah, I am saying that I know God exists and he is a prick.

It still takes years.

No, I am an empirical irrationalist.

It does shift, but very slowly.

Indeed, but it seems that there are a lot of countries critical of the US and our doings. I think that would be the best way of handling this situation. If the Euros, the Asians, Middle Easterners, and Hispanics don't want the US to police the world then we should just not to and reclaim resources that we have given in loan. If people die, well that is what the other nations of the world wanted, right? A United States that is completely hands off.

We are not the police of the world. The US government needs to learn that. We shouldn't let our boys and daughters go to the front lines for these people and mind our own borders. Oh, I say we should still trade and have good relations in the economic sense. However next time someone decides to wage war in some region of the world I say let them all die. Imagine how the world would react if we remove ourselves from NATO and the UN completely or eliminate all foreign aid to other countries and demand all loans to other countries paid back in full. I think the results would be interesting. Countries that cannot pay their debt to the US we will sieze all assets within the country, including property belonging to foreigners of those countries and that is not covered we will impose a trade sanctions aginast that country til the debt is paid.