Deadly_Nightshade

Really, wow, I did not know the wait was that long. :sad:

I see no evidence that a "god" is in control, nor have I seen anything that negates free-will (although there are some who argue that we are just living according to causation) and the idea that people are independent entities. But let's not get off-topic.

But you also claimed that morals are black and white, set in stone - please make up your mind.

I see nothing wrong with this statement.

I can see no problems with it other then a slight mocking tone - your responses on the other hand...

You just justified killing, and thus undermined your initial claim. Please either explain this contradiction or admit that you are being hypocritical.

No, a natural process did - or at least that is the most likely explanation.

But you were just explaining how morals are absolute - how is one type of killing any different from another unless you admit that you are using your personal perspective to justify that sentiment?

How do you know that your religion is moral? The Abrahamic "God," if he/she/it actually exists, is a vile, murdering, hypocrite who, according to the Bible and Torah, has slaughtered thousands, if not millions, of people and commanded his* followers to murder countless other peoples. You claim that you are the ultimate morality, but why should we believe you? How is your system just? And if it is not, why should we adopt flawed morals? "All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."** Everything is filtered trough a cultural or personal filter before it is judged to be "good" or "evil" - and those things are always changing. I do not believe that certain things are "good" and others "evil," for how can anything be completely positive or negative? You are making an asinine generalization about peoples' actions and providing no evidence to back-up your viewpoint. I do not know that, but I do know that there is no reason to believe some magic-man did it. *I use words like "he" and "his" not because I believe that god, if such a being is real, is male, but due to the fact that I must have that part of speech there. **Friedrich Nietzsche

Pardon me if this has already been discussed as I have not read every posting in the thread, but it seems the point that is being argued is whither there we have an absolute, rather then a subjective, morality system. Personally, I believe that all morals, be they personal or societal, are prejudiced towards the various worldviews of the culture in witch they evolved

Why did you bump this?

Yes, it is a MMORPG - and thus I would not buy it even if it was a good game.

Terrible game, it's not worth the subscription fee.

You might want to get a standard Microsoft optical mouse - I think they run about $15.

Ok, I thought it was going to be bigger - thanks for the information.

I've got to go with the Aliens RPG.

Horse and I - Bat for Lashes

You must get Brawl if you have a Wii, it is awesome.

Exactly what "bugs" are you talking about? The issue you brought up in the original topic affected XP as well as Vista, and you have provided no other examples.

Awww... I just got around to getting MOTB - and now there is going to be another one? How soon do you think it's going to be released?

Re: Your Brains - Johnathan Coulton

O RLY? I have had no problems running any XP software on my Vista PC so far, and I have yet to see you actually back up any of your anti-Vista rumormongering.

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