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I always liked the idea of focusing everything on deflection with my rogue and starting combat with a backstab and then let every enemy try to attack me while I deflect and counterattack everything like some kind of dodge tank.

 

So I was wondering if anything even remotely viable can be done in Pillars 2. Maybe when multi-classed. I haven't played the beta or anything so I don't know that much what's available and possible this time around.

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Somewhere in these forums there is a great riposte-type tank build, but it doesn't use the rogue riposte, it uses the monk's soul mirror and blade turning abilities. I think it was an Unbroken/Nalpaszca. One of Boerer's, if I recall. Looks better than riposte, since riposte only works on a total miss. Blade turning can turn more than just misses.

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Yes, that was mine.

 

Riposte is crap again - after is was ok in PoE after some patches. Only works in 20% of misses.

 

With Blade Turning you'll reflect all incoming melee damage and with Soul Mirror some ranged attacks as well.

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  On 5/6/2018 at 6:27 PM, TheMetaphysician said:

Looks better than riposte, since riposte only works on a total miss.

Seems even then it doesn't always work, judging from tooltip. Says it just has a chance. This would be a cool build though, so I hope OP makes it work. Without involving monks, I'm not a fan of monks.

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The chance is 20%. In PoE it was 30% of grazes and 20% of misses.

 

In my opinion it's not worth an ability point in its current state.

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It was a mediocre build even in POE when riposte was stronger. 

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Yeah this sounds kinda demoralizing, but maybe you can combine Blade Turning with riposte unless that's redundant? I guess I'll try out several things.

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If they modify Riposte so it procs more often I can see it being an interesting experiment, but till then I wouldn't bother building around it. On the other hand you could just build a very solid, tanky swashbuckler (Streetfighter/Unbroken jumps to mind), give him Riposte, and see what happens. 

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You could multiclass rogue with wizard and pick a bonus deflection spell like arcane veil to work with riposte. Kinda tempted to turn my Aloth into that, just to see how it would work.

 

  On 5/6/2018 at 10:47 PM, Mack said:

If they modify Riposte so it procs more often I can see it being an interesting experiment, but till then I wouldn't bother building around it. On the other hand you could just build a very solid, tanky swashbuckler (Streetfighter/Unbroken jumps to mind), give him Riposte, and see what happens.

You'd really need a shield with bashing and focus a lot more on offensive attributes. Full attack from just a primary weapon won't do too much I think.

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With a dagger you can also get to quite high deflection values - don't necessarily need a shield. But the 20% on misses is just bad. 

 

Blade Turning works on 100% of all grazes/hits/crits while Riposte works only on 20% of all misses - so in theory this could be stacked I guess. 

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