One Month until the Internet dies

[kirottu]

Isn't the most probable outcome that the UN can't come to an agreement about what to do with the internet and nothing changes?

[Hiro Protagonist]

Looks at my ten HDDs. I've downloaded so much that I'm set for the next 30 years.

[Blarghagh]

Please, it is well know that Google has blacklisted 8chan.

 

Even if this were true (I don't subscribe to the 8chan megolamania delusion that google knows it exists, let alone cares enough about it to blacklist it) what does this have to do with root dns servers? Google is coorporation, not a government.

[Elerond]

 

Please, it is well know that Google has blacklisted 8chan.

 

Even if this were true (I don't subscribe to the 8chan megolamania delusion that google knows it exists, let alone cares enough about it to blacklist it) what does this have to do with root dns servers? Google is coorporation, not a government.

 

 

It seem that 8chan isn't blacklisted from google searches. But they are but in very low priority, which means that non-direct searches will result only indirect links at best.

 

And Google puts this message to direct searches.

"Suspected child abuse content has been removed from this page. Report child abuse content."

 

It is reported that in 2015 for brief period even direct searches didn't provide any results from the site, only message about child abuse. Same reports also say that Google didn't comment why it happened.

 

In January 2015 8chan.co domain was blacklisted by its domain registrar because it was reported containing child pornography and 8chan was moved under new domain 8ch.net. Where it is still even though old domain is back in use. 

[Orogun01]

Isn't the most probable outcome that the UN can't come to an agreement about what to do with the internet and nothing changes?

That is the hope

[Orogun01]

 

 

Please, it is well know that Google has blacklisted 8chan.

 

Even if this were true (I don't subscribe to the 8chan megolamania delusion that google knows it exists, let alone cares enough about it to blacklist it) what does this have to do with root dns servers? Google is coorporation, not a government.

 

 

It seem that 8chan isn't blacklisted from google searches. But they are but in very low priority, which means that non-direct searches will result only indirect links at best.

 

And Google puts this message to direct searches.

"Suspected child abuse content has been removed from this page. Report child abuse content."

 

It is reported that in 2015 for brief period even direct searches didn't provide any results from the site, only message about child abuse. Same reports also say that Google didn't comment why it happened.

 

In January 2015 8chan.co domain was blacklisted by its domain registrar because it was reported containing child pornography and 8chan was moved under new domain 8ch.net. Where it is still even though old domain is back in use. 

 

I used to be that it wouldn't show at all on a direct search.

 

The site content skirts the limits of legality and no one could make a case that it is moral but it certainly wasn't doing anything illegal. More so, it was a pretty hamhanded response on their part that they didn't just block the boards with questionable content but the entire domain. It would be akin to shutting down the entire Obsidian boards because of one questionable thread. 

 

Having control of DNS allows the UN to put pressure on websites to self regulate any content they deem inappropriate, and to stifle any online activism by taking down websites.

So that things like this one which aren't made big public issues, or the DNC hack or Wiki Leaks are disrupted 

[Elerond]

 

 

 

Please, it is well know that Google has blacklisted 8chan.

 

Even if this were true (I don't subscribe to the 8chan megolamania delusion that google knows it exists, let alone cares enough about it to blacklist it) what does this have to do with root dns servers? Google is coorporation, not a government.

 

 

It seem that 8chan isn't blacklisted from google searches. But they are but in very low priority, which means that non-direct searches will result only indirect links at best.

 

And Google puts this message to direct searches.

"Suspected child abuse content has been removed from this page. Report child abuse content."

 

It is reported that in 2015 for brief period even direct searches didn't provide any results from the site, only message about child abuse. Same reports also say that Google didn't comment why it happened.

 

In January 2015 8chan.co domain was blacklisted by its domain registrar because it was reported containing child pornography and 8chan was moved under new domain 8ch.net. Where it is still even though old domain is back in use. 

 

I used to be that it wouldn't show at all on a direct search.

 

The site content skirts the limits of legality and no one could make a case that it is moral but it certainly wasn't doing anything illegal. More so, it was a pretty hamhanded response on their part that they didn't just block the boards with questionable content but the entire domain. It would be akin to shutting down the entire Obsidian boards because of one questionable thread. 

 

Having control of DNS allows the UN to put pressure on websites to self regulate any content they deem inappropriate, and to stifle any online activism by taking down websites.

So that things like this one which aren't made big public issues, or the DNC hack or Wiki Leaks are disrupted 

 

 

But they don't have control over DNS, only root servers. Domain registrars aren't under ICANN's control and they aren't moving under UN's control. I would point out that Wiki leaks is located outside of USA and therefore it isn't protected by US laws and USA is one the countries that has tried to take it down, like forcing Amazon stop hosting them and so on.

 

Can't say why Google does what it does, but in my understanding 8chan don't moderate or remove questionable content. And there is no easy way to automatically sort out which 8chan boards have questionable content and which don't which is probably reason why Google has demoted whole domain. Google is quite heavy handed when it comes to such things, most likely because they don't want to spent money to sort them out.