Let's start a thread about secret talents you can miss, there are 2 in white march for starters

These are from the knife thrower and gambler in the inn keep playing the games

One gives you plus 4 account to daggers and stilletos, other gives you reduced critical when hit!

Gift from the Machine : heritage hill reward if you sacrifice people.

 

Dungeon Delver OR Wild runner : depending on side you choose in "At the mercy of the tribes" act III quest.

 

There are 2 others in Act III : one for rescuing the fang girl inside ice temple. And one for giving the 3 birds to the Orlan singer who wants to eat their soul.

Gift from the Machine (Heritage Hill, top of the tower) - As far as I know you can either bring the captives from the fampyr lady or the little girl from the dargul house/crypt. Preconditions: Cruel 1

 

Effigy's Resentment: <insert official companion here> (Dyrfort, Temple of Skaen, blood pool) - you can sacrifice one of your official companions that are with you. Depending on your choice you get different bonuses. You can look it up in the wiki - those infos seem to be up to date. Preconditions: Cruel 1, official companion in party

 

You can skip the talents from the Crucible Knights/House Doemenel/The Dozens if you just kill them all without solving the second quest of that faction. I don't know why you want to, but you could. You can then go to the hearings with the support of Dunryd Row - I think there's no special talent reward for that though - other than feeling really badass.

Edited February 11, 20169 yr by Boeroer

Gift from the Machine (Heritage Hill, top of the tower) - As far as I know you can either bring the captives from the fampyr lady or the little girl from the dargul house/crypt. Preconditions: Cruel 1

There's np precondition here, but your reputation changes instantly to Cruel 1 if you were neutral before. (nice if you want to do the Effigy's later without effort)

 

 

Gift from the Machine (Heritage Hill, top of the tower) - As far as I know you can either bring the captives from the fampyr lady or the little girl from the dargul house/crypt. Preconditions: Cruel 1

There's np precondition here, but your reputation changes instantly to Cruel 1 if you were neutral before. (nice if you want to do the Effigy's later without effort)

"Tell me again, Aloth, you are a willing servant of the leaden key, aren't you ?"

 

Gift from the Machine (Heritage Hill, top of the tower) - As far as I know you can either bring the captives from the fampyr lady or the little girl from the dargul house/crypt. Preconditions: Cruel 1

There's np precondition here, but your reputation changes instantly to Cruel 1 if you were neutral before. (nice if you want to do the Effigy's later without effort)

 

Oh really? Nice. I always chose this when I already had points in cruel. Good info! 

 

Gift from the Machine (Heritage Hill, top of the tower) - As far as I know you can either bring the captives from the fampyr lady or the little girl from the dargul house/crypt. Preconditions: Cruel 1

There's np precondition here, but your reputation changes instantly to Cruel 1 if you were neutral before. (nice if you want to do the Effigy's later without effort)

 

 

Yes, this is what I thought, too. Hmmm, now I am contemplating whether getting to Cruel 1 and losing some Faith and Conviction is worth getting 2 stat points and more from Gift from the Machine and Effigy.

 

P.S. Anyone tried to kill House of Doemenels? Do you get Cruel 1 from that?

Edited September 22, 20178 yr by Lampros

Nope. You only get terrible reputation with House Doemenel. Did it just yesterday. Because they force you into a fight if you are too honest and won't take part in thievery.

Nope. You only get terrible reputation with House Doemenel. Did it just yesterday. Because they force you into a fight if you are too honest and won't take part in thievery.

 

Ah, awesome. I am going to wipe them, LOL.

 

You won't get all their merchant gear if you kill him/her though, right? That would be too broken!

You won't get all their merchant gear if you kill him/her though, right? That would be too broken!

 

No, you'll miss out on it (unless you kill them after unlocking their merchant and buying it all of course).

 

You won't get all their merchant gear if you kill him/her though, right? That would be too broken!

 

No, you'll miss out on it (unless you kill them after unlocking their merchant and buying it all of course).

 

 

I will kill them after unlocking her - just to not miss out on anything good she sells.

 

Initially, I was going to side with them and kill off one or more of the other houses, since I thought 0.3 crit multiplier was OP. But then I realized that I won't crit nearly as often with a Paladin in PotD (he's averaging 1 percent now - serious), so I'd better choose one of the other two.

 

Initially, I was going to side with them and kill off one or more of the other houses, since I thought 0.3 crit multiplier was OP. But then I realized that I won't crit nearly as often with a Paladin in PotD (he's averaging 1 percent now - serious), so I'd better choose one of the other two.

 

You'll crit a lot more later into the game, although outside of Flames of Devotion Paladins aren't exactly crit monsters.

 

 

Initially, I was going to side with them and kill off one or more of the other houses, since I thought 0.3 crit multiplier was OP. But then I realized that I won't crit nearly as often with a Paladin in PotD (he's averaging 1 percent now - serious), so I'd better choose one of the other two.

 

You'll crit a lot more later into the game, although outside of Flames of Devotion Paladins aren't exactly crit monsters.

 

 

Yes, I was severely misled by the 90 percent rate on Rogue and 30-40-plus percent I got on all other DPS characters in Normal. PotD is whole different game - though I will buff Accuracy more via talents and gear now.