Shield, bash, chiper And questions

[Dr <3]

Just asking in case somebody already knows. If noone have answers i will test myself this night...

 

1) shield bash count ad a second weapon ? ( you attack with main weapon slower than using shield without bash?) --> i think yes

2) 2 weapon style talent speeds you up or not? --> no clue

3) bash attack governo you "mana" if you are a chiper?

4) on crit bash effects ( es Badgradr's Barricade) gives you " mana" ad a chiper?

[Boeroer]

Shield bash did not work with Two Weapon Style and also not with carnage in 2.03. Don't know if it works in the 3.0 beta patch.

 

Using shields without bash doesn't influence your attack speed at all. But if you use a shield with bash you will only hit with your main weapon every second time. So you were right.

 

Bash - as it is in 2.03 - is a huge disadvantage and should be removed or buffed with some effect like a short stun, a very high interrupt chance and duration or something like that.

As it is now, it's not even worthless - it's a punishment!

 

I don't know if it generates focus - if it does, focus generation will be very low because the damage of bash is really whimpy.

 

The only exception at the moment is Badgradr's Barricade because it's bash can trigger Thrust of Tattered Veils unlimited times if you crit. It doesn't generate focus. It profits from Penetrating Shot and works with Driving Flight (ranger). Maybe it also works with Vicious Aim - didn't test that.

So a rogue or ranger crit-build with a weapon that has an on-crit effect (We Toki, Godansthunyr...) or a disorienting weapon (Vile Loner's Lance, Strike Hard...)  plus Badgradr's Barricade might be worth it.  I'm testing that at the moment.

[Dr <3]

Thanks for fast respinse, i start play with the 3.0 yesterday, i'm thinking to go for a solo chiper, but need to plan it before start the run... Ah awesome discovery: on 3.0 finally stunning shots works Aldo in melee... Go rangers!

 

@andreacolombo: Ah you remember that swift aim suppressed the -20% attack speed from cautios attack? Sadly no more...

Edited January 23, 2016 by Dr <3

[Dr <3]

@ andreacolombo: Ah you remember that swift aim suppressed the -20% attack speed from cautios attack? Sadly no more...

[Boeroer]

Thanks for fast respinse, i start play with the 3.0 yesterday, i'm thinking to go for a solo chiper, but need to plan it before start the run... Ah awesome discovery: on 3.0 finally stunning shots works Aldo in melee... Go rangers!

 

@andreacolombo: Ah you remember that swift aim suppressed the -20% attack speed from cautios attack? Sadly no more...

Whoa - great. They nerf the cipher into oblivion and make melee rangers gods when they reach level 11.  

Whatever - that will only make my Riptide build even more awesome.  

[AndreaColombo]

@ andreacolombo: Ah you remember that swift aim suppressed the -20% attack speed from cautios attack? Sadly no more...

 

Yeah, when I raised this in the tech forums, Aarik mentioned his inability to repro the issue in 3.0 so I expected it to be fixed.