dam Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hello everyone, I'm pondering if Chanters benefit from the Scion of Flame talent, for the following : - increase the damage dealt by the 3rd level AOE burn damage chant ? (likely) - increase the bonus damage (which is a flat +25%) bestowed by the 3rd level flame weapons chant ? (unlikely) Furthermore, I'm wondering if allies likewise benefit from Scion of Flame for the 3rd level flame weapons chant. As in, your melee weapon deals an average of 20 damage per swing. Assuming a normal swing and 0 DR, you would deal 20 damage. Now let's factor in the 3rd level burning weapons chant, that would be 20 + (20/4) = 25 damage Now let's work with Scion of Flame, I believe 4 outcomes are possible : - SoF doesn't apply to the bonus damage from the chant - the Chanter has SoF, the chant now buffs not only 25% but (25% + (25/4)%) for a grand total of 31,25% - the wielder has SoF, the bonus damage goes up to 31,25% - the Chanter and wielder have SoF, the bonus damage goes up to (31,25% + (31,25/4)%) for a grand total of 39% Does anyone know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lameover Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 SoF bonus is miltiplicative, not additive. SoF bonus doesn't stack, AFAIK. So, in your words it would be - the Chanter has SoF, the chant now buffs not only 25% but (25% + (25/4)%) for a grand total of 31,25% - the wielder has SoF, the bonus damage goes up to 31,25% Sorry for my bad english. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Galad Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 SoF does not work on lash damage like +25% fire. SoF does not work on DoT. So I don't think there is any interaction between SoF and 3rd level chants. Sad story, bro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorad Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 SoF doesn't work as others have said already but Secrets of Rime does work with the aoe damage freeze incantation. At least that's what I get from testing currently 2.01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dam Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Thank you for the answers, everyone. Ah, but that is a sad day. Here I was, envisioning a deep tank build for my chanter, along with SoF + that AOE burn chant. Obviously I can still do that, I'll just deal 25% less damage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilfazer Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 - the wielder has SoF, the bonus damage goes up to 31,25% This one is true in 2.01. Vancian =/= per rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorad Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Thank you for the answers, everyone. Ah, but that is a sad day. Here I was, envisioning a deep tank build for my chanter, along with SoF + that AOE burn chant. Obviously I can still do that, I'll just deal 25% less damage... I run both pallie and chanter tanks full max res, int, might and average con, especially at lategame it works perfectly fine, yes you won't do much damage with your weapons but your auras/buffs aoe make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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