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Tsuga C

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I've found the following site to be an extremely useful tool for the conceptualization and building of characters for NWN2. It's my hope that P:E includes something very similar to enable us to plan our characters from start to end. People have asked for the ability to "respec" their characters, but if one can plan the growth arc of a character properly ahead of time, this would eliminate a great many mistakes that lead to the call for "respecing".

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Wouldn't it be better if our peculiar selections for a character build weren't considered a "mistake"? Otherwise this advanced planning just looks like min-maxing to me.

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i've never min-maxed in my life...its pure cheese. I always go out of my way so that my warriors have some charisma and either intelligence or wisdom, and the same goes for my other class choices in regards to physique.

That said, i think a character planner is a good idea as it allows for goal oriented character development. For example, if i'm a Cypher with limited ability choices i would, "realistically" as an rp'er, like to focus my time developing what i'm good at and things that would either supplement that discipline or cover a weakness that it leaves open.

without a proper goal a character would just pick abilities aimlessly and never mature into his/her role in the party, thus causing premature death for themselves and the party that depends on them.

so yeah, character planning when appropriate...but none of that boost intelligence to 18 means i need to drop wisdom to 3 crap...that's just bad game design.

Edited by NerdBoner, 27 November 2012 - 01:40 AM.


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well it's

I've found the following site to be an extremely useful tool for the conceptualization and building of characters for NWN2. It's my hope that P:E includes something very similar to enable us to plan our characters from start to end. People have asked for the ability to "respec" their characters, but if one can plan the growth arc of a character properly ahead of time, this would eliminate a great many mistakes that lead to the call for "respecing".

http://nwn2db.com/

Yes, it can be great if P:E to be have a build optimization tool. Also respec no need at all.

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Yesss.. I fully support the idea of such a tool!!!

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What if certain abilities that unlock at level 14 are story related. Building your character would reveal the Soul-haidouken+2 or Spirit-Crystal or some-such. I think having a major plot item potentially spoiled by your natural desire to plot out your character could hurt immersion. I'm sure there will be a P:E wiki where we can share builds and tactics. I think not knowing what you're doing your first play-through helps set the tone of your second play-through.

 

If the game had Lan/Internet multiplayer support I would see a lot more reason for a more fleshed-out character-planner UI.


Edited by .Leif., 01 June 2013 - 07:41 AM.


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Leif, I think that plot related feats and abilities wouldn't be class related.  When NWN2 came out, there were some excellent trainer mods that came out that allowed players to level up their characters and then try them in combat.  I'm not expecting anything like that, but a spreadsheet or planner allowing us to see how core abilities, feats, skills interact would be really handy considering this is a brand new system Obsidian is developing.

 

I think it would be great if they released something like this at the same time as the beta (for all backers, not just the beta key purchasers) as another way to ramp up the anticipation of the final product.  It could be set up as a planner for only the first 5 levels or so; just a teaser.  That would be another way to avoid spoilerish content.


Edited by curryinahurry, 02 June 2013 - 01:18 AM.






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