jivex5k Posted November 5, 2012 Posted November 5, 2012 Obese characters and character creation? That would be phat!
TrashMan Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 "Healthy body image" is a relative concept. Someone who's 300 lbs overweight could be perfectly health in theory. The concept of being overweight is one of averages and statistics. What matters in the end is your heart rate, your blood pressure, the stress your body is under, and your general overall hapiness with yourself and your body. If you're overweight and your body is biologically fine with that weight - and you don't mind the way you look and feel physically, then what's the problem? You're healthy. Not really. Someone whos'e grossly overweight is a walking stroke hazzard. Especially if he goes around running. But having a "happy well-adjusted fat man" as a character, let alone as a romanceable character, just for the sake of having a fat well-adjusted guy, is silly and self-defeating. And it's what's grating about most PC threads or wants. We don't want "political correctness" - we want actual correctness. We want things that emulate life as it truly is, if not directly, then in an indrect, artsy way. Agree with you there. PC treads get on my nerves. * YOU ARE A WRONGULARITY FROM WHICH NO RIGHT CAN ESCAPE! *Chuck Norris was wrong once - He thought HE made a mistake!
kaiki Posted November 6, 2012 Posted November 6, 2012 To Obsidian Entertainment and whomever else it concerns, As a fat ally, I am very much concerned about how body image will be portrayed in your upcoming title Project Eternity. Too often cRPGs equate obesity to gluttony and reinforce stereotypes that associate traditionally unattractive qualities with evil. This reliance on hackneyed tropes both demonstrates a lack of narrative depth and ultimately castigates loyal fans. Human bodies come in many different shapes and sizes, and I'd like the character creation process to reflect this fortunate reality. Perhaps PE could even provide social commentary on these serious issues by having one of the companions experience body image issues throughout the campaign. At any rate, I think that acceptance of fat lifestyles has been understated at best in previous Obsidian releases and I sincerely hope that this oversight is addressed for the future. I'm also very hopeful that the other members of this wonderful community will join me in proclaiming this forum to be fat-friendly. In summary, a cRPG that promotes a healthy body image is something for which I've been waiting an eternity, and Project Eternity could be that game. -mcmanusaur, Fat Ambassador I would prefer that PE does not adress body image in how you are describing it. As there are many topics/themes that can be explored, and just for myself, I am not interested in that topic. As for not having "grotesque" ((in the literary sense of the word)) characters, I think PE ought to use whatever archtypes they feel make the game a richer experiance. I do not think that it is "hackneyed tropes both demonstrates a lack of narrative depth". If the character is written poorly and that is their only dimension "the ugly evil guy" then that is poor writing. I wouldn't want to see poor writing in any area of PE. A multi-dimensional character that was ugly and had anti-social motivations may be interesting. The Phantom of the Opera is a good example of that.
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