Hurlshort Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 "You don't free slaves by making being a slave illegal. You don't resolve homelessness by fining people who don't shower. You're penalizing a victim for being victimized. It's idiotic." This. Welcome back Volourn! Thought you disappeared for good there for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblarg Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Just think what a wonderful world this we be if we all just left each other alone? If somone wants to follow the dictates of their religion and wear burqas, or whatever, who cares. Why is this even a point of contention? My sentiments exactly. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I guess the diffrence is that Muslims emmigrating to the US are usually people who "want to move on" while Muslims emmigrating to Europe "just want to live their life the way they learned in their homeland + subsidied rent and social wellfare checks". Nah, the difference is there's an ocean in between. The fact that Americans built a wall to keep their southern neighbours out, should tell enough how they would deal with muslims. so, the US built a wall to keep southern neighbors out? HA! new mexico gots a spanish-speaking population of over 47%. california and texas is both having more than 1/3 population o' native spanish speakers. the US is the country with the second largest number o' hispanic residents in the world. no other country in the world has as many total immigrants from all countries as the United States has immigrants from Mexico alone. 11% of all living people born in mexico live in the US. if the US gots some kinda pervasive animosity directed at its southern neighbors, they gots a funny way of showing it. border protections (not a wall) is to stem the tide o' ILLEGAL immigration. duh. HA! Good Fun! The US is often divided down the middle on it's issues (not to say always) so you get both the support, understanding and bigotry, animosity. disagree. the US left and right is actual not very far apart on most issues. with only two parties, you tends to get far less polarization than in european parliamentary systems. try to explain to foreigners that there is no more conservative beast than some southern democrat Congressmen is difficult. individuals in the US may be running the gamut from support, understanding, bigotry and animosity, but our laws rare turn out that way. most laws end up as compromise measures authored by folks with largely similar ideologies. since the civil rights acts o' 1964, any kinda overt public sanctioned bigotry has declined rapidly. sure, you can finds bigots everywhere in the US, but other than handling o' relations with domestic dependent nations (recognized indian tribes,) endemic, government sanctioned bigotry is rare. between the Court enforcement o' the civil war amendments, and Congressional tendency to avoid anything that even remotely smacks o' extremism, your suggestion o' disparate treatment is... unlikely. some folks want far too much from lawmaking. there is no law or Court decision that can change the beliefs and prejudices o' people. even so, American laws is very much supportive and understanding o' all racial minorities who is LEGALLY present within its borders. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 So Morgy's mediocre trolling has, against all odds, managed to turn yet another decent thread into a discussion about the evil US? What a shame. Please, let's go back to discussing Euro hypocrisy and herd mentality. We don't get nearly as many threads about that. Reminder: France is, at least nominally, a democracy. In a democracy, governments reflect -for the most part- the prevailing popular sentiment. Or do they? - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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