Switzerland Threatens to Expel Immigrants

[tripleRRR]

Religion is more often just an excuse for behavior than the reason for it in my opinion.

[Walsingham]

Religion is more often just an excuse for behavior than the reason for it in my opinion.

 

I agree. But don't expect Sand to budge an inch.

[Sand]

Religion is more often just an excuse for behavior than the reason for it in my opinion.

 

For some it is an excuse, for others it is a reason. For those who use religion as an excuse often manipulate those who act because of religion. For example, Osama Bin Ladin is a viscious, power hungry terrorist that uses Islam as an excuse to justify his desires. He and those like him manipulate younger and more impressionable Muslims to do terrible terrorist acts in the name of Islam. For these people, their Islamic faith is the reason and justification for their actions.

Edited September 11, 2007 by Sand

[samm]

religious goads aside: rowan atkinson, fitting to the situation in swiss parliament that may be about to come

[Sand]

Rowan Atkinson is very good.

[Walsingham]

Well, anyway, I don't think this is about religion.

[Sand]

I think religion has a part, but it is not the sole reason for the divisions of the human race. What we need is a world cataclysmic event that threatens to destroy all of the human race unless we put aside our differences and work together as one people, as one world. Then we get the Watchmen scenerio.

Edited September 12, 2007 by Sand

[samm]

This is what I think not only applies to the world in general, but also specifically to this country. We swiss may not notice how stupid we are, until something really devastating happens because of our racist election/ballot-behaviour. Well, I have to vote, wait and see what happens after this election campaign...

[Walsingham]

I think religion has a part, but it is not the sole reason for the divisions of the human race. What we need is a world cataclysmic event that threatens to destroy all of the human race unless we put aside our differences and work together as one people, as one world. Then we get the Watchmen scenerio.

 

I doubt that would halt it. The fact is that we can only appreciate a limited range of persons, and feel loyalty accordingly. Even within units of the Army, fighting side by side you get divisions (no pun intended).

[tripleRRR]

I think religion has a part, but it is not the sole reason for the divisions of the human race. What we need is a world cataclysmic event that threatens to destroy all of the human race unless we put aside our differences and work together as one people, as one world. Then we get the Watchmen scenerio.

 

 

It's far more likely that we would still be going at each others throats til the very end unfortunately.

[Sand]

Which is why we will fail as a species.

[Xard]

Causes and ideologies, not religions, kill people (religions are subcategory of those) yet they're some and most important things in human lives. World without causes is empty, shallow. But they're source of great atrocities too.

 

What people need is really start communicating, broaden their views, open their minds. Acceptance, forgiveness, something that aims in greater things than benefits of individuals, nations and organizations. Start using their brains, ask questions, seek answers, doubt things. Above all start searching, it's journey that matters, not the journey. Most people just eat, have sex, sleep, work and die away without greater understanding or searching it.

 

...Yeah, I get these idealistic outbursts once in a while.

[Walsingham]

Causes and ideologies, not religions, kill people (religions are subcategory of those) yet they're some and most important things in human lives. World without causes is empty, shallow. But they're source of great atrocities too.

 

What people need is really start communicating, broaden their views, open their minds. Acceptance, forgiveness, something that aims in greater things than benefits of individuals, nations and organizations. Start using their brains, ask questions, seek answers, doubt things. Above all start searching, it's journey that matters, not the journey. Most people just eat, have sex, sleep, work and die away without greater understanding or searching it.

 

...Yeah, I get these idealistic outbursts once in a while.

 

 

In which case we should have it framed. Well put, sir.

[Xard]

"it's journey that matters, not the journey. "

 

Of course I ment destination, not journey

[Walsingham]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6992670.stm

 

Good heavens, how handy. The BBC have written an article on this subject. Enjoy.

[Musopticon?]

Causes and ideologies, not religions, kill people (religions are subcategory of those) yet they're some and most important things in human lives. World without causes is empty, shallow. But they're source of great atrocities too.

 

What people need is really start communicating, broaden their views, open their minds. Acceptance, forgiveness, something that aims in greater things than benefits of individuals, nations and organizations. Start using their brains, ask questions, seek answers, doubt things. Above all start searching, it's journey that matters, not the journey.

Yeah, and then you get eaten by a giant robot.

[Pidesco]

Just remember, that if everyone doesn't start thinking of life as a non-zero sum game, we will, sooner or later become extinct.

[Walsingham]

Just remember, that if everyone doesn't start thinking of life as a non-zero sum game, we will, sooner or later become extinct.

 

 

Quite so. *puff puff*

[Xard]

Causes and ideologies, not religions, kill people (religions are subcategory of those) yet they're some and most important things in human lives. World without causes is empty, shallow. But they're source of great atrocities too.

 

What people need is really start communicating, broaden their views, open their minds. Acceptance, forgiveness, something that aims in greater things than benefits of individuals, nations and organizations. Start using their brains, ask questions, seek answers, doubt things. Above all start searching, it's journey that matters, not the journey.

Yeah, and then you get eaten by a giant robot.

 

I really didn't get that

[julianw]

Causes and ideologies, not religions, kill people (religions are subcategory of those) yet they're some and most important things in human lives. World without causes is empty, shallow. But they're source of great atrocities too.

 

What people need is really start communicating, broaden their views, open their minds. Acceptance, forgiveness, something that aims in greater things than benefits of individuals, nations and organizations. Start using their brains, ask questions, seek answers, doubt things. Above all start searching, it's journey that matters, not the journey.

Yeah, and then you get eaten by a giant robot.

 

I really didn't get that

I didn't get that either... so there, you aren't alone. Also, what do you mean by 'it's journey that matters, not the journey'? Kinda cryptic...

[Morgoth]

He prolly just had a beer or five too much. Perhaps Xardoman just meant "The journey is the goal!".

[Xard]

"it's journey that matters, not the journey. "

 

Of course I ment destination, not journey