Kaftan Barlast Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 I saw this on TV so Im afraid theres no article to link to, not in English anyway. But: In order to ensure the privacy of the public, FOI (swede military defense research) has constructed a system that encrypts video feeds from CCTV systems, making detailed video visible only to the Police after obtaining permission to access the data by the District Attourney. As the vast majority of live supervision is handled by security companies and not by proper police officers, there is a need to limit the potential for abuse and violation of integrity. The way the system works is by filtering feeds from CCTV into a computer that recognises humans, another system then mosaics-out the humans filmed and sends that to the CCTV monitors while the unscrambled video is enrypted and stored. Thus, a security guard would no longer be able to see his neighbours daughter buying a pregnancy test, but he would get enough detail to see if someone is getting robbed. If the police believes a crime has been filmed, they can apply to the DA for a warrant, in order to get an encryption key making it possible for them to watch the tapes in full detail with no scrambling. This makes perfect sense if you think about the fact that CCTV photage isnt actually used to locate criminals or detect crime in realtime, but rather to help the following investigation and as evidence in court. Neat, innit? Though I suspect this system wont find much of a market in the US DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Tale Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 (edited) I like it. How many European countries have CCTV? I'd be surprised if there was even a single US city that had anything like it. Most we have are security cameras belonging privately to the store they're located at and the odd traffic camera. Edited August 9, 2007 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Arkan Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 I like it. How many European countries have CCTV? I'd be surprised if there was even a single US city that had anything like it. Most we have are security cameras belonging privately to the store they're located at and the odd traffic camera. Good. Don't need Big Brother watching me wank...I mean, walk through the street. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Kaftan Barlast Posted August 9, 2007 Author Posted August 9, 2007 I think London has the most comprehensive system in the world. We dont have anywhere near that much linked surveillance but since you need a license to setup even the smallest video surveillance system here, this sramble-encrypt system would be installed *everywhere*, ensuring your privacy even if you're stopping by a gas station in the northern wastes of Lappland(where mkreku comes from). DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Tale Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 How much would that cost to install and maintain, though? I imagine it would be quite a pretty penny. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Tigranes Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Well, London for example already spent many a dime installing cameras every corner of central London, so why not fork out some more for, I don't know, privacy? It's a great technology and I hope it is adopted. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
Walsingham Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 It's aneat idea. However, in about five to ten years most of that pre-processing will be done using computer algorithms rather than rentacops. It's already starting with things like firearms. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
mkreku Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 I think London has the most comprehensive system in the world. We dont have anywhere near that much linked surveillance but since you need a license to setup even the smallest video surveillance system here, this sramble-encrypt system would be installed *everywhere*, ensuring your privacy even if you're stopping by a gas station in the northern wastes of Lappland(where mkreku comes from). I don't think Kiruna has cameras yet. In fact, I don't think they have electricity yet. The polar bears ate all the electricity. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
Meshugger Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 (edited) I think London has the most comprehensive system in the world. We dont have anywhere near that much linked surveillance but since you need a license to setup even the smallest video surveillance system here, this sramble-encrypt system would be installed *everywhere*, ensuring your privacy even if you're stopping by a gas station in the northern wastes of Lappland(where mkreku comes from). I don't think Kiruna has cameras yet. In fact, I don't think they have electricity yet. The polar bears ate all the electricity. No matter. Last i've heard, is that they have to move the whole town because of the risk of it sliding....200 meters downwards. Oh, and kudos to the Swedes for keeping Big Brother out the way. Edited August 10, 2007 by Meshugger "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
mkreku Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Last i've heard, is that they have to move the whole town because of the risk of it sliding....200 meters downwards. Yup. The mining company, LKAB, is so rich they've decided to move half the town, one building at a time, to be able to drill the iron ore core that runs beneath the town. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
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