interview with a jihadi

[Walsingham]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6907141.stm

 

A relatively short piece, but still one full of interest. It may not seem like it, but I believe I can trace the internal logic of male jihadis, but what the feth is up with female jihadis? Die to ensalve yourself? That's a new one.

 

Thoughts? Insights?

[Sand]

Jihadis are a bunch of nutcases. No more grounded in reality as Timothy McVeigh, Reverend Phelps, and the such. They have no respect for life, not even their own, and, in my ever so humble of opinion, are a bunch of cowards.

[Walsingham]

Cowardice is a complex business. Are you sure that's what you mean?

[Guard Dog]

After the evening prayer we found out that Maulana Aziz - the chief cleric - had been arrested while he was trying to flee wearing a burka

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Typical. After preaching the virtue of martyrdom to the people they have ensnared the leaders put on disguises and try to sneak away. Sand is right. These people are not worth the dirt on the graves of the people they have murdered by setting bombs and running away. Or by strapping bombs on brainwashed children. Despicable. I have no stomach for men like Maulana Aziz, Zarqawi, Arafat, Bin Al asheed, Bin Laden, Zawahiri, Hussien, Che Guevera, Omar, and other filth like them. They are brutal towards the helpless, send others to die in their place and when it's their turn they die on their knees weeping and begging for their own lives.

[Walsingham]

Steady on there. You put a lot of different people in one bucket. Che Guevara the same as Zarqawi? Arafat the same as Bin Laden?

[kirottu]

Yeah. Che Guevara was handsome.

[Guard Dog]

Steady on there. You put a lot of different people in one bucket. Che Guevara the same as Zarqawi? Arafat the same as Bin Laden?

Heh, I had just today listened to this idiot in my class talking about how much he admired that S.O.B. Did not seem to know the first thing about him. I told him he should do a little research about La Caba

[Musopticon?]

I agree that all of those men did their share of atrocities(and I hate Guevara), but is it really ok to just call them alike?

[Guard Dog]

I agree that all of those men did their share of atrocities(and I hate Guevara), but is it really ok to just call them alike?

Is a man who commits atrocities in the name of religion really so different from one who does it in the name of political ideology?

[Musopticon?]

Heh, nevermind. I realised that arguing was pretty pointless considering how little we disagree on.

 

Sure, they are all bastards. I would make some distinctions between them, but considering the subject, there's nothing extremely vital.

Edited July 24, 2007 by Musopticon?

[Baley]

Yeah. Che Guevara was handsome.

The real Che was nowhere near as handsome as Gael Garcia Bernal. His beard was icky and unkempt; he had no feel for fashion.

 

(Don't let the liberal media swindle you, k.)

[Walsingham]

I agree that all of those men did their share of atrocities(and I hate Guevara), but is it really ok to just call them alike?

Is a man who commits atrocities in the name of religion really so different from one who does it in the name of political ideology?

 

 

They're more efficient, because they don't have to stop for prayers.

 

Simply hating your enemy is not enough, you know. If you disagree with someone it becomes even more crucial to understand them. As Homer says "Lisa, honey, just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand."

 

 

EDIT: I just had the most awful thought. If the jifascists win then there will be no more Simpsons.

[Kaftan Barlast]

After the evening prayer we found out that Maulana Aziz - the chief cleric - had been arrested while he was trying to flee wearing a burka

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Typical. After preaching the virtue of martyrdom to the people they have ensnared the leaders put on disguises and try to sneak away.

 

 

I dont think you have the proper perspective on this. See, cross-dressing is pretty risky bussiness in muslim countries, and to do it in the very center of "put a towel on your head and a bomb in your pants" takes some serious guts.

[Walsingham]

After the evening prayer we found out that Maulana Aziz - the chief cleric - had been arrested while he was trying to flee wearing a burka

.

 

Typical. After preaching the virtue of martyrdom to the people they have ensnared the leaders put on disguises and try to sneak away.

 

 

I dont think you have the proper perspective on this. See, cross-dressing is pretty risky bussiness in muslim countries, and to do it in the very center of "put a towel on your head and a bomb in your pants" takes some serious guts.

 

 

Indeed. I think the whole thing with hiding in burkas has to stop. Although obviously at present it works in their favour. If we check burqa clad people then we end up usually offending traditionalist sensibilities. If we use women soldiers to do it we annoy them even more!

[Guard Dog]

After the evening prayer we found out that Maulana Aziz - the chief cleric - had been arrested while he was trying to flee wearing a burka

.

 

Typical. After preaching the virtue of martyrdom to the people they have ensnared the leaders put on disguises and try to sneak away.

 

 

I dont think you have the proper perspective on this. See, cross-dressing is pretty risky bussiness in muslim countries, and to do it in the very center of "put a towel on your head and a bomb in your pants" takes some serious guts.

You are KILLING me. Too funny.

[Walsingham]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6914959.stm

 

An opinion poll survey shows muslim support for suicide bombs plummeting outside Palestine. What interests me particularly is the high degree of support in Nigeria. A country which - to the best of my knowledge - has experienced little if any suicide bombs.

 

This brings me toa further point - can we be sure that all suicide bombers are actually knowingly suicide bombers?

[Guard Dog]

Heh, nevermind. I realised that arguing was pretty pointless considering how little we disagree on.

 

Sure, they are all bastards. I would make some distinctions between them, but considering the subject, there's nothing extremely vital.

Musopticon if I post something dumb, please feel free to call me out on it. I take criticisim well, especially if someone like you thinks its warranted.

 

Anyway, you and Wals are probably right, there are different breeds of villian just like there are different breeds of scorpion. The thing that I hate most about the jihadist leaders is they preach jihad but they are never the ones to strap on the bombs. They send deluded teenagers. In a real army, the commander is right there in the fight. Did Henry V sneak away in the night before Agincourt? Did Wellington sneak away before Waterloo? Did Lee sneak away before Fredricksburg? Romulus Agustulus did not flee Rome before the Visigoths attacked. All of them were facing seemingly hopeless battles. But the "jihadists", their leaders disguise themselves as women and sneak off in the night. Incidently, Zarquawi did the exact same thing once to avoid being caught as Americam troops searched the truck he was riding in.

[Sand]

So, cross dressing has its advantages.

[Arkan]

I agree that all of those men did their share of atrocities(and I hate Guevara), but is it really ok to just call them alike?

Is a man who commits atrocities in the name of religion really so different from one who does it in the name of political ideology?

Jus to satiate my curiosity, what were these atrocities that Guevara committed? Don't really have time to read the whole wiki entry...

[Guard Dog]

The ususal. Torture, mutilation, summary excecution. The was the commandant of La Caba

[Arkan]

I guess I could search for specifics on my own. I just want to know in case I hear somone praising Che or wearing a shirt with his face printed on it.

[Guard Dog]

Torture and Tyranny, the Real Che

Mass Murderer and Cultural Icon

The Bitter Truth About Che

[Arkan]

Torture and Tyranny, the Real Che

Mass Murderer and Cultural Icon

The Bitter Truth About Che

 

 

Thanks, GD. I'm sure this will come in handy.

[Walsingham]

One reason I enjoyed the Motorcycle Diaries was because I didn't realise they were about Che Guevara until the end.

[Yuusha]

Unbelievable... You guys are truly mindless masses brainwashed by the american government.

 

You wanna know what terror is? Lemme show ya:

 

On August 6, 1945, 8.15 am, the uranium atom bomb exploded 580 metres above the city of Hiroshima with a blinding flash, creating a giant fireball and sending surface temperatures to 4,000C. Fierce heat rays and radiation burst out in every direction, unleashing a high pressure shockwave, vaporising tens of thousands of people and animals, melting buildings and streetcars, reducing a 400-year-old city to dust.

 

Housewives and children were incinerated instantly or paralysed in their daily routines, their internal organs boiled and their bones charred into brittle charcoal.

 

Now that's terrorism!!!