@\NightandtheShape/@ Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I honestly have no idea what you're on about. Yes, I have double standards when it comes to the Gothic series. And? What's your point? I'm questioning your credibility as a journalist. "I'm a programmer at a games company... REET GOOD!" - Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@\NightandtheShape/@ Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) NightandtheShape has an irrational hatred for double standards, parasitic games journalists. Edited March 28, 2007 by @\NightandtheShape/@ "I'm a programmer at a games company... REET GOOD!" - Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Mkreku is a game reviewer, someone who is paid to give his opinions for a game site. If you are looking for an unbias game reviewer then you might as well go look for the proverbial needle in the haystack because by the very nature of the work of being a game reviewer you need to be opinionated and every opinion has a bias. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@\NightandtheShape/@ Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Mkreku is a game reviewer, someone who is paid to give his opinions for a game site. If you are looking for an unbias game reviewer then you might as well go look for the proverbial needle in the haystack because by the very nature of the work of being a game reviewer you need to be opinionated and every opinion has a bias. oh I know this, but exposing them all for the hypocritical parasitic worms they are is slowly become'in a hobby for me. Naturally it's nothing person against Mkreku directly. "I'm a programmer at a games company... REET GOOD!" - Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Aren't we all hypocritical parasites when it comes right down to it? Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@\NightandtheShape/@ Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Aren't we all hypocritical parasites when it comes right down to it? LOL perhaps, but then again I can't help but feel that reviewers have way too much influence over people in general. If you want to hate a game, you will find things you hate about it, same goes for if you want to like something. "I'm a programmer at a games company... REET GOOD!" - Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 That is why it is important to find a game reviewer with similar tastes to yourself. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Mkreku is a game reviewer, someone who is paid to give his opinions for a game site. If you are looking for an unbias game reviewer then you might as well go look for the proverbial needle in the haystack because by the very nature of the work of being a game reviewer you need to be opinionated and every opinion has a bias. what a screwy pov. bias ain't same as preference. bias is an unreasoned preference, so no, an opinion does not always have a bias. The biggest problem with reviewers that Gromnir has is not that they gots preferences or tastes that is different than Gromnir "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 what a screwy pov. bias ain't same as preference. bias is an unreasoned preference, so no, an opinion does not always have a bias. Its all the same to me. Bias, preference, opinion, reasonable or unreasonable. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 what a screwy pov. bias ain't same as preference. bias is an unreasoned preference, so no, an opinion does not always have a bias. Its all the same to me. Bias, preference, opinion, reasonable or unreasonable. *nods* is exactly why we said your pov is screwy. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Good, we are in agreement. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 There is a fine line between bias and preference. And preference does not always has to have a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Aren't we all hypocritical parasites when it comes right down to it? Yeah, but I don't get paid for it! Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Aren't we all hypocritical parasites when it comes right down to it? Only if by "we" you are referring to you silly humans and not everyone on this forum. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 what a screwy pov. bias ain't same as preference. bias is an unreasoned preference, so no, an opinion does not always have a bias. Its all the same to me. Bias, preference, opinion, reasonable or unreasonable. *nods* is exactly why we said your pov is screwy. HA! Good Fun! not screwy, irrational. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I'm questioning your credibility as a journalist. Ah. Well, good luck then. I'm a games journalist. I review games, I don't report the news. All I have is a (somewhat educated) opinion which I try to convey as objectively as possible to the readers of our site. Sometimes it doesn't work and we make mistakes. It was probably a mistake to let me review Gothic 2 (which is the reason I turned down Gothic 2 Gold and Gothic 3..), just as it was giving Zelda: The Wind Waker to our biggest Zelda fan (he scored it 98/100 back when we had that scale). Do you think Eurogamer are proud of the fact that they scored Oblivion 10/10 right now? Or do you think there's not a single reviewer in the world going "Hey, Gears of War.. maybe it wasn't The Holy Grail Of All Gaming after all?" right now? We offer opinions, not fact. We're not trying to convince anyone that we're right, we're merely trying to convey a sense of what the product is about so that the reader can make up his own mind about whether or not the title in question is for him/her, without having to spend 50 Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Mkreku WINS! Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I agree. mkreku wins. This time. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@\NightandtheShape/@ Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I'm questioning your credibility as a journalist. Ah. Well, good luck then. I'm a games journalist. I review games, I don't report the news. All I have is a (somewhat educated) opinion which I try to convey as objectively as possible to the readers of our site. Sometimes it doesn't work and we make mistakes. It was probably a mistake to let me review Gothic 2 (which is the reason I turned down Gothic 2 Gold and Gothic 3..), just as it was giving Zelda: The Wind Waker to our biggest Zelda fan (he scored it 98/100 back when we had that scale). Do you think Eurogamer are proud of the fact that they scored Oblivion 10/10 right now? Or do you think there's not a single reviewer in the world going "Hey, Gears of War.. maybe it wasn't The Holy Grail Of All Gaming after all?" right now? We offer opinions, not fact. We're not trying to convince anyone that we're right, we're merely trying to convey a sense of what the product is about so that the reader can make up his own mind about whether or not the title in question is for him/her, without having to spend 50 "I'm a programmer at a games company... REET GOOD!" - Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I agree. mkreku wins. This time. but we all lose. "Ah. Well, good luck then. I'm a games journalist. I review games, I don't report the news. All I have is a (somewhat educated) opinion which I try to convey as objectively as possible to the readers of our site." review games gets special qualification? is too bad. that being said, is not like mkreku is alone in incompetence and is not as if games is only class o' reviews that has such a poor group o' technical writers. is music and books reviewed better than games? maybe, but the gap is getting smaller. there is still a ny times book review, but what is music equivalent... Rolling Stone? and what 'bout movie reviews? is thousands o' movie review sites on internet and every major newspaper gots a dedicated movie reviewer. how many o' those reviewers do you thinks is excellent at their craft? sure, you may find a reviewer who gots some similar taste as you, you may even find a reviewer who is entertaining, but how many reviews has you actually read that you would you rely 'pon if you not knew the track record o "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 any joker with an opinion and some free time is capable o' being a reviewer o'... whatever. seems i recall sand actually functioning in this role at one time. hehe... i need the pokey icon. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 (edited) Hey, I did, but then I decided it really wasn't worth the trouble or the money. I have been seriously been thinking of doing my own site and basically write up not game reviews as the norm but full length essays and technical response critiques of the game in question, but then again who gives a smeg what I think. I certainly don't. Edited March 29, 2007 by Sand Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I certainly don't. then you're in good company... ba dump dump, ching! :pokey: hehe, couldn't resist. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Of course you couldn't. I expected it. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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